Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 86380 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2009 14:25:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 14:25:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4887 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2009 14:25:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 4812 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2009 14:25:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 4804 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2009 14:25:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:25:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.6.21] (HELO gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com) (192.18.6.21) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:25:36 +0000 Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.7] (may be forged)) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n73EPCYp013106 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:25:14 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KNS00800ZSBUI00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:24:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost ([unknown] [193.217.228.17]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KNT0011B1D1FPD0@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:24:38 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:24:35 +0200 From: Knut Anders Hatlen Subject: Re: DERBY-4331 and the 10.5.2.0 release In-reply-to: <4A76E79C.5060307@sun.com> Sender: Knut.Hatlen@Sun.COM To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: References: <4A75C5FD.6060902@sbcglobal.net> <4A76E79C.5060307@sun.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (usg-unix-v) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Rick Hillegas writes: > As I see it, data corruptions are the worst kind of database bug, > followed closely by wrong results. We have a precedent for pulling > releases from our download site and I recommend that we pull the > 10.5.2.0 release because of this regression. Although we have pulled releases with serious problems from our download site once, I think we shouldn't make that the rule. The pulling did cause some problems for us, like holes in the release notes when upgrading over multiple releases in one go. And most of the releases from the 10.3 and 10.4 branches did have wrong results regressions, but they're still available for download. However, since we haven't yet announced 10.5.2.0, holding the announcment (possibly pulling the release from the download page) and quickly re-spinning a release with DERBY-4331 fixed sounds like a good option. Also, I'd prefer a quick re-spin as soon as the known regressions are fixed, rather than having a new maintenance release in the autumn, since right now all our 10.5 releases have known regressions from 10.4. That said, I won't be able to help with a release the next two weeks, so I'm just expressing a wish for a quick fix, not actually offering to do the work. :( -- Knut Anders