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From Rick Hillegas <Richard.Hille...@Sun.COM>
Subject Java DB, was: DERBY-4331 and the release
Date Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:33:59 GMT
Just a heads-up and a request for the community's patience:

Normally, the Java DB team produces a re-spin of every Derby release. 
The Java DB team has discussed the impending announcement and 
we have decided that there is too much risk for us in re-spinning this 
release. We believe that customers affected by DERBY-3926 have largely 
figured out how to work around that problem because the bug has been in 
Derby since 10.1. In contrast, the implications of DERBY-4331 are not 

However, we have customers who want other fixes which are in the 10.5 
branch. We would like to produce a Java DB distribution which 
would be the state of the 10.5 branch without DERBY-3926. What we 
propose to do is the following:

1) Back out DERBY-3926 on the 10.5 branch.

2) Produce a distribution from the branch at that point.

3) Put DERBY-3926 back into the 10.5 branch.

We would like to warn the community that we are going to do this and ask 
for your patience while we produce this distribution.


Kathey Marsden wrote:
> Rick Hillegas wrote:
>> It seems to me that the reactions to this email thread were mostly 
>> negative. 
> It is hard to tell without a formal vote (which of course would take a 
> week) but I see a more mixed reaction on  the issue of posting the 
> release.   Some people say complete the release process, some say 
> abort and others think we should just stay in limbo a bit longer to 
> research impact.  I don't think there is a clear consensus.  There 
> also seems to be a similar divergence of opinions on whether and where 
> to back out the DERBY-3926 fix.
> As Knut mentioned we have left releases with known wrong results 
> regressions on the site before without even a mention of the problem 
> on the download page.  I feel  like as release manager I should make a 
> decision soon and there is not time for a 7 day revote on  
> My inclination is to go ahead with the process and include the warning 
> on the download page.
> Then there can be more discussion and/or a vote on the fate of the 
> current DERBY-3926 fix, separate from the release discussion.
> Kathey

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