Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 57731 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2009 20:58:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 20:58:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 486 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2009 20:58:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 284 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 2009 20:58:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 275 invoked by uid 99); 10 Feb 2009 20:58:01 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:58:01 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 75.180.132.122 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.180.132.122] (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.122) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:57:52 +0000 Received: from jean-andersons-computer.local ([76.88.116.210]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090210205731.NJP21761.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@jean-andersons-computer.local> for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:57:31 +0000 Message-ID: <4991EA3A.7020509@bristowhill.com> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:57:30 -0800 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: Bumping the fourth digit References: <20090209140957.12A3E23888AF@eris.apache.org> <4990791A.6030704@sun.com> <4990AD05.2060104@sbcglobal.net> <49919598.7070406@sun.com> <4991C116.3090502@sbcglobal.net> <4991CC43.3050709@sun.com> <4991DAEE.3050106@sbcglobal.net> <4991E23B.9090302@bristowhill.com> <4991E7EC.1090000@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <4991E7EC.1090000@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Rick Hillegas wrote: > Jean T. Anderson wrote: >> Kathey Marsden wrote: >>> Rick Hillegas wrote: >>>> >>>> As a test of this, I have updated the description of 10.4.2.1. You >>>> can see this by clicking on the link you forwarded. Does this >>>> format look reasonable to you? >>>> >>> I think we cannot include an url to the Sun build in Jira. >>> According to: >>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html >>> >>> "Do not include any links on the project website that might >>> encourage non-developers to download and use nightly builds, >>> snapshots, release candidates, or any other similar package. >>> ... >>> Under no circumstances are unapproved builds a substitute for >>> releases. If this policy seems inconvenient, then release more >>> often. Proper release management is a key aspect of Apache software >>> development. >>> >> That www.apache.org/dev/release.html policy governs distribution of >> software produced by an Apache project and made available for >> download from an Apache website. >> >> Why are we concerned about tracking releases produced by non-Apache >> entities, such as Sun? > And IBM. And anyone else who wants to build a distribution from the > community branches. We're talking about tracking and fixing bugs which > are logged against commit points on a community codeline, whether that > is the development mainline or one of our stable branches. This is > useful to everyone who drinks out of the common well. > but it doesn't make sense for an apache project to reference somebody else's external (non-Apache) build or distribution. --That's a slippery slope that would then need to accommodate anybody who comes along. And we should never bump the Derby release number to accommodate an external project. -jean > Regards, > -Rick >> >> -jean >> >>> Just the subversion commit number should be sufficient in the Jira >>> version comment I think. >>> >>> >>> Kathey >>> >> >