Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 63338 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2009 16:31:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2009 16:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21850 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2009 16:31:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 21816 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2009 16:31:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 21807 invoked by uid 99); 26 Jan 2009 16:31:58 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:31:58 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.6.24] (HELO gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com) (192.18.6.24) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:31:48 +0000 Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n0QGVS6T026340 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:31:28 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0KE300L016ZO0J00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Knut.Hatlen@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:31:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost ([129.159.112.134]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0KE300GM8781JY30@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:31:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:31:19 +0100 From: Knut Anders Hatlen Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code thoughts In-reply-to: <497B62DC.3060304@amberpoint.com> Sender: Knut.Hatlen@Sun.COM To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <497B62DC.3060304@amberpoint.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (usg-unix-v) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Bryan Pendleton writes: > I've been thinking about next summer's Google Summer of Code > (http://code.google.com/soc). In particular, I've been thinking > about possible Derby-related projects that we might suggest to > potential SoC interns. > > I've listed several possibilities below, and am interested in > getting some feedback, including: > - do these projects seem appropriate (not too big, not too small, > can be sub-divided into smaller projects and smaller steps > successfully, have a coherent theme, would be appealing to an > intern, would be well-received by the Derby community, etc.) > - are there other projects like these that are worth considering? > - how can we attract interns motivated to succeed at efforts > like these? > > Would you be interested in getting involved as a mentor for > one of these projects, or perhaps for another Derby project? > The more mentors we can get, the more students we can host, and > the more the Derby community benefits. > > What is the next step? How should we capture and develop project > ideas such as these, and how can we start building interest for > interns who might want to apply for these projects? Should we > put this information somewhere in the wiki? How could we organize it? Hi Bryan, I think those are very good proposals. It sounds like you're thinking that we're using bug fixes and smaller improvements to get the interns warmed up and familiar with one area of the code, and that they can progress into feature work in that area once they're up to speed. That sounds like a great idea to me. That's a good way to motivate them, and we're also more likely to get some smaller improvements checked in even if the full project turns out to be too big. We could use this wiki page (which still talks about GSoC 2006) to collect ideas: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/CodingProjects. It probably needs some cleanup, since some of the projects have been completed, and those listed as mentors may not be as motivated as they were three years ago. -- Knut Anders