Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 82337 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2008 15:45:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Mar 2008 15:45:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 59618 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2008 15:45:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 59444 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2008 15:45:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 59435 invoked by uid 99); 19 Mar 2008 15:45:19 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:45:19 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 32.97.110.153 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of qozinx@gmail.com) Received: from [32.97.110.153] (HELO e35.co.us.ibm.com) (32.97.110.153) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:44:39 +0000 Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e35.co.us.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2JFimOg005303 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:44:48 -0400 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v8.7) with ESMTP id m2JFima8125386 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:44:48 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m2JFimSB013984 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:44:48 -0600 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([9.30.38.182]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2JFijaI013799 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:44:47 -0600 Message-ID: <47E134ED.8060203@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:44:45 -0700 From: Army User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: Release notes for Wrong Results bug... References: <2107665427.1205878464438.JavaMail.jira@brutus> In-Reply-To: <2107665427.1205878464438.JavaMail.jira@brutus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Dyre Tjeldvoll (JIRA) wrote: > > This issue has fix version 10.4 and is marked with either 'Release note > needed' or 'Existing application impact', but does not have a > releaseNote.html attached to it. Should it? I think Wrong Results bugs like DERBY-3023, DERBY-2351, and DERBY-3301 have "Existing application impact" checked because the solutions to those bugs could change the query results seeen by existing apps--esp. we're now getting correct results where we were getting incorrect results before. It seems like having a release note for such cases would be worthwhile so that users who see different results after upgrading to 10.4 can look at the release notes to get an idea of what may have caused the change. Some example release notes for "wrong results" bugs can be found for DERBY-2256 and DERBY-1852; the latter is more detailed than the former. Note, though, that someone on the list mentioned a long while ago that use of the term "may now return different results" in the "Summary of Change" section is not desirable since "different" does not imply "correct". (I don't have the thread handy.) Just changing "different" to "correct" doesn't help because then it would say we *may* now return correct results, which isn't good. Removing "may" and just saying "now return correct results" is also a tad undesirable as it seems to suggest that the types of queries in question always returned incorrect results before, which isn't necessarily true (sometimes it depends on the data). But maybe that's the best way to go... Army