Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 13357 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2008 18:25:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 18:25:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 54523 invoked by uid 500); 18 Feb 2008 18:25:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 54310 invoked by uid 500); 18 Feb 2008 18:25:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 54301 invoked by uid 99); 18 Feb 2008 18:25:01 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:25:01 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2000.0 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.140] (HELO brutus.apache.org) (140.211.11.140) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:24:37 +0000 Received: from brutus (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brutus.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA7F234C042 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:24:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <576001277.1203359077775.JavaMail.jira@brutus> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel John Debrunner (JIRA)" To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: [jira] Created: (DERBY-3429) Remove system property derby.system.jmx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Remove system property derby.system.jmx --------------------------------------- Key: DERBY-3429 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-3429 Project: Derby Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Daniel John Debrunner Priority: Minor I don't believe that derby.system.jmx provides any benefit and is counter to the concept of using JMX for management. The one use case for it from DERBY-1387 is: Making the Derby JMX automatically available in the MBean server will make it impossible for the user to make some application with an embedded Derby db manageable thorugh JMX without also making Derby manageable thorugh JMX. I would think that this "all or nothing" granularity could be a problem for some applications. So we would need an explicit derby.system.jmx property for enabling the management service anyway. The functional spec contains no information as to why this is a useful feature. I wanted to separate out the discussion from the wider issues in DERBY-1387 -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.