Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74096 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2008 17:28:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Feb 2008 17:28:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12667 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2008 17:28:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 12635 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2008 17:28:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 12621 invoked by uid 99); 15 Feb 2008 17:28:27 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:28:27 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 75.180.132.120 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.180.132.120] (HELO cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) (75.180.132.120) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:27:41 +0000 Received: from jean-andersons-computer.local ([76.88.116.210]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080215172800.ZSPO2345.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@jean-andersons-computer.local> for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:28:00 +0000 Message-ID: <47B5CB9E.9090405@bristowhill.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:27:58 -0800 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: junit license References: <47B372F9.5010101@sun.com> <54ac72d70802131633i48b5e7bbs88f8b906a27799cc@mail.gmail.com> <47B3CF78.8030605@apache.org> <54ac72d70802140007h6b1766a0ie7640d0aa36b8f45@mail.gmail.com> <54ac72d70802142315m1db30e49x4b6f53b591468834@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54ac72d70802142315m1db30e49x4b6f53b591468834@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Andrew McIntyre wrote: ... > Well, well. As it so happens, just last month there was a discussion > of this on legal-discuss. See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6]. > > ... > So, while not a part of the official policy on the matter, the > not-so-unofficial policy is that if you check it into Subversion, > follow the NOTICE requirements as if it were a release, since > Subversion is publication (from [2]) while not necessarily > distribution. > > The fact that other projects aren't following this exactly is no > excuse for Derby not to be diligent in light of the discussion above. > So, if you want to check junit.jar in to the repository, it should be > ok. Just be sure to follow the requirements in the policy linked > above, as junit.jar is a Class B licensed artifact according to that > policy. Once that has been followed, it should also be acceptable for > us to include it in an official release, since if the policy has been > followed to the letter, all necessary legal requirements should be > satisfied. > > Crossing my fingers I didn't mess up the citations, and also I'm not a > lawyer, etc., etc., > andrew > > Thanks for doing the research on this, Andrew, and I agree. I've watched the debates over the last couple years over whether the code in svn constitutes a release (not surprisingly, there are diverse opinions). It's better to provide info in the NOTICE where it may not be strictly required (or may not seem to be), than to miss including info that turns out to be required. -jean > [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200801.mbox/%3cE9D17D5F-3A68-4968-AB26-49586D558B14@gbiv.com%3e > > [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200801.mbox/%3c5D96BBC0-F827-4029-90A2-D68B3A25F1BE@gbiv.com%3e > > [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200801.mbox/%3c478AA88A.5010502@rowe-clan.net%3e > > [4] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200801.mbox/%3c478D0025.80806@rowe-clan.net%3e > > [5] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200801.mbox/%3c478CFB06.2080103@apache.org%3e > > [6] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200801.mbox/%3c478AA233.2090605@rowe-clan.net%3e >