Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47941 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2008 17:43:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Feb 2008 17:43:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 38313 invoked by uid 500); 7 Feb 2008 17:43:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 38293 invoked by uid 500); 7 Feb 2008 17:43:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 38284 invoked by uid 99); 7 Feb 2008 17:43:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:43:34 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:43:03 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m17HhBxt007664 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JVV00001QEHUB00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Richard.Hillegas@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from richard-hillegas-computer.local ([129.146.30.65]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JVV008B2QJWCMF0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:43:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:43:10 -0800 From: Rick Hillegas Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1387) Add JMX extensions to Derby In-reply-to: <47AB3D4D.1030400@apache.org> Sender: Richard.Hillegas@Sun.COM To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: <47AB432E.3040408@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <29598799.1202234048566.JavaMail.jira@brutus> <47A8B9D5.3090505@apache.org> <47A8CC7F.7080504@sun.com> <47A8CEDA.90400@apache.org> <47A8D8C6.2050802@sun.com> <47A8EBE6.4030709@apache.org> <47A9C0DD.3040405@Sun.COM> <47A9F7C5.2000705@sun.com> <47AB3D4D.1030400@apache.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > Rick Hillegas wrote: > >> In order to use JMX to monitor/configure Derby (and other >> applications), I think that the following is true: >> >> DerbyNet-Admin => JMX-Admin >> Engine-Admin => JMX-Admin >> DB-Admin => JMX-Admin >> OtherApp-Admin => JMX-Admin >> >> Are there other relationships among these roles? In particular, it is >> not clear to me that "VM-Admin => JMX-Admin". > > Just to be clear, could you say what '=>' means here? From my days of > mathematics I remember '=>' means implies, but I'm not sure what you > mean in this context. > > Thanks, > Dan. Right. "VM-Admin => JMX-Admin" is my shorthand for "If you are a VM-Admin, then you are a JMX-Admin". Hope this makes more sense now, -Rick