Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 37153 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 21:52:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 21:52:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 62494 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2007 21:52:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 62464 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2007 21:52:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 62455 invoked by uid 99); 8 Nov 2007 21:52:01 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:52:01 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [69.147.64.90] (HELO smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.90) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:52:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 46539 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 21:51:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.254.155?) (ddebrunner@sbcglobal.net@64.175.40.76 with plain) by smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 21:51:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: UODk.JMVM1mJh64EWYZBvtW9iNdEebYReKF1hQAFQeut6ARlajXpg1RuB5xfTwlt4rpwe5YSxg-- Message-ID: <473384F2.6000106@apache.org> Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:51:46 -0800 From: Daniel John Debrunner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: Installing a SecurityManager by default when the server boots References: <47320BAE.60609@sun.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Dag H. Wanvik wrote: > In the final analysis it comes down to what annoys the Derby user > more, a potentially unsafe system or the hassle of dealing with > security. No free lunch... Though the network server's default installed security manager is a free lunch for most folks. It provides a more secure system without most users having to worry about security. Dan.