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From "Laura Stewart (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Created: (DERBY-3179) Clearup documentation on locale and error messages
Date Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:05:50 GMT
Clearup documentation on locale and error messages
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                 Key: DERBY-3179
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-3179
             Project: Derby
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: Documentation
            Reporter: Laura Stewart
            Assignee: Laura Stewart
            Priority: Minor



Mamta A. Satoor - 26/Oct/07 09:36 AM 
Laura, I looked at the cdevin55108.html page and I have to admit that the contents of it look
confusing to me. The html seems to be giving contradictory information. May be someone who
knows more about tools, error messages and how they are related to locale can help us determine
the right content but I thought I will bring to the list's attention. 

The page says that "For example, Derby explicitly supports Spanish-language error messages.
If a database's locale is set to one of the Spanish-language locales, Derby returns error
messages in the Spanish language." So this seems to indicate that locale of the database will
determine the language of the error messages. But the line below seems to say that locale
of the database has nothing to do with language of the error messages. "The locale of the
database is set by the territory=ll_CC attribute when the database is created. However, **the
locale of the error messages and tools is not determined by the locale of the database**.
The locale of the error messages and tools is determined by the default system locale. This
means that it is possible to create a database with a non-default locale. In such a case,
error messages are not returned in the language of the locale of the database but are returned
in the language of the default locale instead." 

Sorry, at this point, I do not know enough about how tools and error messages work in Derby
to tell you what is the right content for cdevin55108.html. I am hoping someone who knows
more about this can help us. 

Mamta A. Satoor - 26/Oct/07 09:36 AM Laura, I looked at the cdevin55108.html page and I have
to admit that the contents of it look confusing to me. The html seems to be giving contradictory
information. May be someone who knows more about tools, error messages and how they are related
to locale can help us determine the right content but I thought I will bring to the list's
attention. The page says that "For example, Derby explicitly supports Spanish-language error
messages. If a database's locale is set to one of the Spanish-language locales, Derby returns
error messages in the Spanish language." So this seems to indicate that locale of the database
will determine the language of the error messages. But the line below seems to say that locale
of the database has nothing to do with language of the error messages. "The locale of the
database is set by the territory=ll_CC attribute when the database is created. However, **the
locale of the error messages and tools is not determined by the locale of the database**.
The locale of the error messages and tools is determined by the default system locale. This
means that it is possible to create a database with a non-default locale. In such a case,
error messages are not returned in the language of the locale of the database but are returned
in the language of the default locale instead." Sorry, at this point, I do not know enough
about how tools and error messages work in Derby to tell you what is the right content for
cdevin55108.html. I am hoping someone who knows more about this can help us. 


[ Permlink | Edit | Delete | « Hide ] Laura Stewart - 29/Oct/07 02:20 PM 
Mamta - I have asked on derby-dev about file cdevin55108.html. I suspect that Derby does not
display the error messages in another language unless when IBM donated the code for Cloudscape,
the error messages had been translated into other languges... any new messages since then
will not appear in the locale language. However, there may be some kind of locale translator
that is built in, which I am not aware off... 

If we don't get a response in the next few days, I would like to commit the changes to the
other files and open a separate issue for this one file. What do you think? 
[ Show » ] Laura Stewart - 29/Oct/07 02:20 PM Mamta - I have asked on derby-dev about file
cdevin55108.html. I suspect that Derby does not display the error messages in another language
unless when IBM donated the code for Cloudscape, the error messages had been translated into
other languges... any new messages since then will not appear in the locale language. However,
there may be some kind of locale translator that is built in, which I am not aware off...




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