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From "Siamak Sarmady" <sarma...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Derby Workbench or other GUI
Date Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:32:32 GMT
David,

Thank you for your reply. I have had little experience with Netbeans
platform and I think it will be a great idea to use it for the
software.

I will subscribe to the Netbeans DB developers list and will continue
to work on this with you and people there.

Regards,
Siamak

On 10/11/07, David Van Couvering <david@vancouvering.com> wrote:
> Hi, Slamak.  I am the database architect for NetBeans, and also a
> committer on Derby.
>
> You can actually change the database directory using Tools->Java DB
> Database->Database Directory.
>
> However, it is currently hard to set other properties, such as host
> and port number.  And it doesn't work well with multiple directories,
> as you mentioned.
>
> Also, NetBeans does generally do most of its work with the network
> server versus the embedded driver.
>
> You are not the only one asking about an independent tool for Derby,
> and that they like what NetBeans provides.  Rather than duplicate all
> this effort, I think there's a way we can work together.
>
>
> What I highly recommend is you look at using NetBeans as a *platform*
> for your tool.  NetBeans is a composition of fairly independent
> modules, and you can use it to build your own desktop application
> fairly easily.  Take a look at http://platform.netbeans.org and also
> there is a book on this called "Rich Client Programming with
> NetBeans", see
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Rich-Client-Programming-Plugging-NetBeans/dp/0132354802
>
> A lot of people are doing this already.  The advantage here is you can
> take advantage of what we've already done for Derby integration, and
> we can take advantage of the improvements you want to provide.
>
> We have an open development community for the db functionality in
> NetBeans going on at dev@db.netbeans.org, send mail to
> mailto:subscribe-dev@db.netbeans.org.  Let's work together rather than
> duplicate effort.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> On 10/10/07, Rick Hillegas <Richard.Hillegas@sun.com> wrote:
> > Hi Siamak,
> >
> > Some work has already gone into creating management tools for Derby.
> > Please take a look at DERBY-1387. That issue describes a JMX-based
> > scheme for managing Derby servers and databases. It would be great if
> > you could piggyback your work on top of those JMX extensions. I think
> > you will discover that the people working on the JMX beans are wrestling
> > with (and solving) the same issues which you will need to face as you
> > build a management gui.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Rick
> >
> > Siamak Sarmady wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Recently I was able to test Netbeans' JavaDB (derby) GUI tools and I
> > > should say it was a very enjoyable experience. But I also had some
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > - I normally create the database directory inside my program's
> > > directory and then use embedded driver to connect it.
> > >
> > > - Netbeans creates its directory in a specific place and it is
> > > difficult to change it to your own directory and back to its initial
> > > one every time. (to be able to manage several databases)
> > >
> > > - I want it to be able to manage different derby directories easily
> > > (in addition be able to manage/connect a databases using socket and
> > > TCP).
> > >
> > > Now, is there a GUI available which does all these things?
> > >
> > > If not then I might be interested in a project to build such a thing
> > > (like Netbeans' JavaDB interface but as a separate application which
> > > also handles mentioned issues easily).
> > >
> > > I appreciate if you can give me feedback on this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Mac
> > >
> >
> >
>

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