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From "David Van Couvering" <da...@vancouvering.com>
Subject Re: Derby Workbench or other GUI
Date Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:15:04 GMT
Hi, Slamak.  I am the database architect for NetBeans, and also a
committer on Derby.

You can actually change the database directory using Tools->Java DB
Database->Database Directory.

However, it is currently hard to set other properties, such as host
and port number.  And it doesn't work well with multiple directories,
as you mentioned.

Also, NetBeans does generally do most of its work with the network
server versus the embedded driver.

You are not the only one asking about an independent tool for Derby,
and that they like what NetBeans provides.  Rather than duplicate all
this effort, I think there's a way we can work together.

What I highly recommend is you look at using NetBeans as a *platform*
for your tool.  NetBeans is a composition of fairly independent
modules, and you can use it to build your own desktop application
fairly easily.  Take a look at http://platform.netbeans.org and also
there is a book on this called "Rich Client Programming with
NetBeans", see


A lot of people are doing this already.  The advantage here is you can
take advantage of what we've already done for Derby integration, and
we can take advantage of the improvements you want to provide.

We have an open development community for the db functionality in
NetBeans going on at dev@db.netbeans.org, send mail to
mailto:subscribe-dev@db.netbeans.org.  Let's work together rather than
duplicate effort.



On 10/10/07, Rick Hillegas <Richard.Hillegas@sun.com> wrote:
> Hi Siamak,
> Some work has already gone into creating management tools for Derby.
> Please take a look at DERBY-1387. That issue describes a JMX-based
> scheme for managing Derby servers and databases. It would be great if
> you could piggyback your work on top of those JMX extensions. I think
> you will discover that the people working on the JMX beans are wrestling
> with (and solving) the same issues which you will need to face as you
> build a management gui.
> Thanks,
> -Rick
> Siamak Sarmady wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Recently I was able to test Netbeans' JavaDB (derby) GUI tools and I
> > should say it was a very enjoyable experience. But I also had some
> > problems.
> >
> > - I normally create the database directory inside my program's
> > directory and then use embedded driver to connect it.
> >
> > - Netbeans creates its directory in a specific place and it is
> > difficult to change it to your own directory and back to its initial
> > one every time. (to be able to manage several databases)
> >
> > - I want it to be able to manage different derby directories easily
> > (in addition be able to manage/connect a databases using socket and
> > TCP).
> >
> > Now, is there a GUI available which does all these things?
> >
> > If not then I might be interested in a project to build such a thing
> > (like Netbeans' JavaDB interface but as a separate application which
> > also handles mentioned issues easily).
> >
> > I appreciate if you can give me feedback on this.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mac
> >

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