Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 22138 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2007 00:59:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Sep 2007 00:59:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 54157 invoked by uid 500); 28 Sep 2007 00:59:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 54118 invoked by uid 500); 28 Sep 2007 00:59:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 54109 invoked by uid 99); 28 Sep 2007 00:59:25 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:59:25 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.6.21] (HELO gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.6.21) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:01:46 +0000 Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l8S0x3ZR006269 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:59:03 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JP100101ZT5W100@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Dag.Wanvik@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:59:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from khepri05.norway.sun.com ([129.159.112.194]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JP200H3L02E7900@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:59:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:59:02 +0200 From: Dag.Wanvik@Sun.COM (Dag H. Wanvik) Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1387) Add JMX extensions to Derby In-reply-to: <33164198.1190880950867.JavaMail.jira@brutus> Sender: Dag.Wanvik@Sun.COM To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <33164198.1190880950867.JavaMail.jira@brutus> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.1 (usg-unix-v) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org "Bernt M. Johnsen (JIRA)" writes: > [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1387?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12530654 ] > > Bernt M. Johnsen commented on DERBY-1387: > ----------------------------------------- > > On second thought. Making the Derby JMX automatically available in > the MBean server will make it impossible for the user to make some > application with an embedded Derby db manageable thorugh JMX without > also making Derby manageable thorugh JMX. I would think that this > "all or nothing" granularity could be a problem for some > applications. So we would need an explicit derby.system.jmx property > for enabling the management service anyway. Any comments? >From your argument it makes sense to introduce this property, but should the default be "off", though? I thought your argument was to enable it for usability reasons, or did you decide against it for security reasons? Dag