Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 90137 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2007 21:43:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2007 21:43:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 31477 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jul 2007 21:43:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 31452 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jul 2007 21:43:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 31443 invoked by uid 99); 18 Jul 2007 21:43:04 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:43:04 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of manjula.kutty@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.172 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.172] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.172) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:43:00 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so338913ugf for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:42:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tXAV8bA+Enrt9p4VUmX1dVz+oGNHSrH3ilJiiESVWUPPCp2/dbKIWz1KHchuShf/f167NP/rYSFnoN1+AiJkRHebiUKjI+rnrLkm+HT4bfWpZ/YaLF/KwNRhNy4kea99Kbuzwq2ace286PubNRhDagq/9Fnkm8QxeCQvgpplxno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G1NWdjTLqSiSD0e9etULKUCw9IHnW4NQ2FsoN+oFLXLxX0lgWUaKd0MadE0EmDsZx2QkOhHLDDYHSg3ZHQG+YsFm92oGrDCv/hpF/jwLRdc+3MyByGPjfjrEnAwnTMIIXbfbG/9zpPUx1RPivQ4YaVo1UJhmgm5+xEJdhE8/k4U= Received: by 10.78.175.14 with SMTP id x14mr578267hue.1184794958718; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.156.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59c2e1ec0707181442k7472f3c0udf50b4833949675b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:42:38 -0700 From: "Manjula Kutty" To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: again, another 10.3.1. release candidate? In-Reply-To: <469E856C.4040104@sun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_100675_13001177.1184794958684" References: <469E856C.4040104@sun.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_100675_13001177.1184794958684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In my openion we should go for a release (if we can include Mamta's fix, that will be great). But not to wait for the bugs which are not picked by anyone. And then may be in September we can have a bugfix release. As far, for me RC2 tests are progressing well. So nothing stops me to vote +1 Thanks Manjula On 7/18/07, Henri van de Scheur - Sun Norway wrote: > > Hi Myrna! > > I understand your concern and would like to share my thoughts. > I think a combination of 1) and 3) would be best. > I would prefer a release now, but understand the concerns in the > community and thereby the need for a new RC. After the 26th I will also > start a vacation, so that would suit me fine (just in time). When we > know that an update release will be started on in September, I guess > that will also make it easier to accept some other critical issues in > this RC. > > Thanks! > > Henri > > PS: I hope to post results of testing on 10.3.1.2 tomorrow. As far as I > have seen so far, it looks quite good. > > Myrna van Lunteren wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There was a discussion ensuing from DERBY-2896, which I think should > > be a general discussion item, following mamta's check-in for a fix for > > that critical issue. > > > > > > Knut Anders Wrote: > >> >The changes in metadata.properties will not be picked up when you > >> upgrade from 10.3.1.x to 10.3.2.x. > >> > > Kathey replied: > >> This filed as DERBY-1107 and I think is a good reason to have a new > >> release candidate. I think other critical issues such as DERBY-2437 > >> and the regression DERBY-2892 might be worth waiting for too if they > >> can be fixed in short order. I wouldn't veto a release at this point > >> but would probably vote -0. > > > > > > It seems to me that even though Kathey doesn't want to hold up the > > release, she really doesn't want a release without this fix. > > Which to me sounds like a new release candidate, which, as we've got a > > vote outstanding, means holding up the release. :-) > > > > But Kathey's email poses some options > > 1. I can do a fairly quick turn-around and make another release > > candidate after Mamta backports the fix to 10.3. If I can build the > > files tonight or tomorrow morning early, I can test, and call a vote > > around noon, that would give us until July 26th noon (PDT) and I could > > maybe still close the vote and hope that the maven work and web page > > work can be finished on that day, or leave it to Rick to do that part > > once he's back the week after. > > > > 2. We can wait until someone fixes DERBY-2892 for 10.3. I have not > > heard anything positive, nor a time frame for such a fix. If a fix > > happens before the 26th, I can generate new build files and open the > > voting, but someone else (Rick when he's back form > > vacation/conference?) will have to finish up the work for this > > release. > > > > 3. We can wait even further until other critical issues such as > > DERBY-2437 are fixed. I want to point out, that no has volunteered to > > own that one at this point, so we might be waiting indefinitely. I > > can, as I have suggested before, pick up the release work in > > September, and we can see how far the fixes are then. Or someone else > > can volunteer. > > > > Kathey, please be explicit, which 'other' issues except DERBY-2437 do > > you think are necessary to receive a fix? > > > > > > Myrna > -- Thanks, Manjula. ------=_Part_100675_13001177.1184794958684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
In my openion we should go for a release (if we can include Mamta's fix, that will be great). But not to wait for the bugs which are not picked by anyone. And then may be in September we can have a bugfix release. As far, for me RC2 tests are progressing well. So nothing stops me to vote +1
 
Thanks
Manjula

 
On 7/18/07, Henri van de Scheur - Sun Norway <Henri.Vandescheur@sun.com> wrote:
Hi Myrna!

I understand your concern and would like to share my thoughts.
I think a combination of 1) and 3) would be best.
I would prefer a release now, but understand the concerns in the
community and thereby the need for a new RC. After the 26th I will also
start a vacation, so that would suit me fine (just in time). When we
know that an update release will be started on in September, I guess
that will also make it easier to accept some other critical issues in
this RC.

Thanks!

Henri

PS: I hope to post results of testing on 10.3.1.2 tomorrow. As far as I
have seen so far, it looks quite good.

Myrna van Lunteren wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There was a discussion ensuing from DERBY-2896, which I think should
> be a general discussion item, following mamta's check-in for a fix for
> that critical issue.
>
>
> Knut Anders Wrote:
>> >The changes in metadata.properties will not be picked up when you
>> upgrade from 10.3.1.x to 10.3.2.x.
>>
> Kathey replied:
>> This filed as DERBY-1107 and I think is a good reason to have a new
>> release candidate.  I think other critical issues such as DERBY-2437
>> and the regression DERBY-2892 might be worth waiting for too if they
>> can be fixed in short order.  I wouldn't veto a release at this point
>> but would probably vote -0.
>
>
> It seems to me that even though Kathey doesn't want to hold up the
> release, she really doesn't want a release without this fix.
> Which to me sounds like a new release candidate, which, as we've got a
> vote outstanding, means holding up the release. :-)
>
> But Kathey's email poses some options
> 1. I can do a fairly quick turn-around and make another release
> candidate after Mamta backports the fix to 10.3. If I can build the
> files tonight or tomorrow morning early, I can test, and call a vote
> around noon, that would give us until July 26th noon (PDT) and I could
> maybe still close the vote and hope that the maven work and web page
> work can be finished on that day, or leave it to Rick to do that part
> once he's back the week after.
>
> 2. We can wait until someone fixes DERBY-2892 for 10.3. I have not
> heard anything positive, nor a time frame for such a fix. If a fix
> happens before the 26th, I can generate new build files and open the
> voting, but someone else (Rick when he's back form
> vacation/conference?) will have to finish up the work for this
> release.
>
> 3. We can wait even further until other critical issues such as
> DERBY-2437 are fixed. I want to point out, that no has volunteered to
> own that one at this point, so we might be waiting indefinitely. I
> can, as I have suggested before, pick up the release work in
> September, and we can see how far the fixes are then. Or someone else
> can volunteer.
>
> Kathey, please be explicit, which 'other' issues except DERBY-2437 do
> you think are necessary to receive a fix?
>
>
> Myrna



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Thanks,
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