Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 80551 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2007 20:59:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jun 2007 20:59:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 5369 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2007 20:59:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 5341 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jun 2007 20:59:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 5332 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jun 2007 20:59:29 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:59:29 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of scotsmatrix@gmail.com designates 209.85.132.251 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.132.251] (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.251) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:59:25 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c8so215298ana for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dnLTI+CYoua06uRTM9kSQjgRxW2qpmN7I39JndapnvHjliBrIBhnuQ9sXoxmm4wRYdNlWRN4V696mXwhhiTCu4D6eatFr/LpDjm69RMAffBZpeA9MkAyuV+MoBfc5dhIlO1Nbwiti/7quaAGpsJ8ZOu3T392uzJh+zMZUMaKdh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nhAaBrzAYK0zQPPm9dyDbY7QK49wmQM7uUe423KqfEHLGw2dRNho8rbmg7qXakitx89WT33lelSWXAzU3FH52/6tUxFdpU7y7RFnjgA5eYvab3lKzvD9NPNeheypzCFBO/IjKqiHN52FQqy7VzrFEDAWCwoinbuqqiwpfeUzcxM= Received: by 10.100.124.5 with SMTP id w5mr2033909anc.1181336344304; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.177.19 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 13:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9f40b500706081359t7d756fa6ge67b059eebabbf3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 13:59:04 -0700 From: "Laura Stewart" To: derby-dev@db.apache.org, Camilla.Haase@sun.com Subject: Re: Terminology question - are dblook, ij, and sysinfo Tools or Utilties? In-Reply-To: <4669BF46.6080707@Sun.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9f40b500706081329m599f7b30i5b305d1e75d98d1f@mail.gmail.com> <4669BF46.6080707@Sun.COM> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 6/8/07, Kim Haase wrote: > In my experience, "tool" and "utility" are synonyms and can be used > interchangeably. Of course, if we follow the elementary tech writing > rule "Always use the same word to mean the same thing," we ought to > choose one of them and use it consistently, but that may be too much to > ask in community-generated docs. The merger of the GS and WWD books does > give you a chance to do it right for these, though! > > Which you use I think depends on whether you prefer Anglo-Saxon > monosyllables or Latinate polysyllables. > > HTH, > Kim Since we have an entire guide "Derby Tools and Utilities Guide" devoted to these, it seems to me someone, somewhere felt that there was a difference for Derby. I have seen them used interchangably too (and don't have a preference since I can claim heritage from both the Anglo-Saxons and Latins :-) but we should be consistent and use 1 term. Since we are so close to the release candidate, I am going to just leave things as they are and open a separate JIRA issue for changing this and making it consistent in the Derby docs. I just need some feedback from derby-dev before I open the issue. I'm hoping that someone will provide me with a rational for each term :-) Laura > Laura Stewart wrote: > > I'm trying to be accurate in the Derby documentation when discussing > > dblook, ij, and sysinfo. > > > > Are these "tools" or "utilities"? Is there a difference between a > > "tool" and a "utility"? > > > > Should one term apply to all of these or should we use different terms > > depending on what it does? For example, one of these simply dumps > > info to the screen (sysinfo). Is that different than opening up a mini > > application (ij)? > > > > I'd appreciate your options on the correct term to use to describe > > each of these. > > > -- Laura Stewart