Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 81039 invoked from network); 30 May 2007 14:39:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 30 May 2007 14:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9105 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2007 14:39:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 9080 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2007 14:39:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 9071 invoked by uid 99); 30 May 2007 14:39:40 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 07:39:40 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.1.36] (HELO gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com) (192.18.1.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 07:39:35 -0700 Received: from d1-emea-10.sun.com (d1-emea-10.sun.com [192.18.2.120]) by gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l4UEdDjh010473 for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 14:39:13 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-emea-10.sun.com by d1-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JIU00M01ZBA3R00@d1-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Dag.Wanvik@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 15:39:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from khepri05.norway.sun.com ([129.159.112.194]) by d1-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JIU0051XZDBOW00@d1-emea-10.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 15:39:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:39:11 +0200 From: Dag.Wanvik@Sun.COM (Dag H. Wanvik) Subject: Re: 10.3 blocker issue - DERBY-2728 In-reply-to: Sender: Dag.Wanvik@Sun.COM To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.0.50 (usg-unix-v) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Myrna van Lunteren writes: > Hi, > > We have a bump in our 10.3 release path - DERBY-2728. > > I'd like the opinion of the community as to how we can address this; > how long would a fix take (and thus delay a release); who would be > willing to implement a fix? If we choose to tie enforcement to SQLAuthorization being on, I think this is a fairly small patch; the existing tests still have test cases for this (authentication + SQLauthorization), so they could be tweaked easily too. I expect most work would be to change the documentation (DERBY-2520). The release note for DERBY-2264 would need to change as well. I'd be willing to do this work if we choose that approach. I'd need a week; generally pushing releases less than 2 weeks seems not worth it, so I suggest a 2 week delay. DERBY-2728 speaks about making the semantics optional a *upgrade time*, though, which is another approach. This could imply some persistence of the fact that the database was upgraded and should have different semantics than a freshly created one, or use of extra properties. If someone volunteers to make such a solution, thats fine with me. Note that even if we tie enforcement to SQLAuthorization, some existing application may still be impacted, although presumably much fewer applications, since this is a 10.2 feature, and already implies a database owner concept and is probably less likely to be used in an embedded context (Kathey's concern). Thanks, Dag > > Should we make a release candidate while the fixing is in progress? > > Please give your 2 (or other #) cents. > > Regards, > Myrna > -- Dag H. Wanvik Sun Microsystems, Database Technology Group (DBTG) Haakon VII gt. 7b, N-7485 Trondheim, Norway Tel: x43496/+47 73842196, Fax: +47 73842101