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From "Jean T. Anderson (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (DERBY-2428) Move older releases from www.apache.org/dist/ to archive.apache.org/dist
Date Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:29:24 GMT

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Jean T. Anderson commented on DERBY-2428:

Below is a chat Jean and Andrew had on #derby. Relevant points (I think) are:

- All releases are automatically copied to the archives; we just need to update the web pages
pointing to them.
- Everything but the current release is a candidate for being pointed at the archives.
- Download pages can be updated one by one (no need to do all in one blast).
- Andrew identified these steps for updating a download page:
1) remove the mirror selection section and form from the HTML page, 
2) replace [preferred] with http://archive.apache.org/, and 
3) then make the derby_downloads page link directly to the HTML and not the cgi. 
4) And then remove the cgi script for that release.

Also, once the dowload page for a release has been updated, we need to physically remove the
release from /www/www.apache.org/dist/db/derby on people.a.o.

Below is the complete chat:

samcintyre jta: now that I think about it, should probably be archived as well. There's
no reason anyone should download instead of
jta sure -- why not archive everything previous to the most current release?
jta dumb question: are archives mirrored?
jta more the question is: how big is the update to the download pages for the older releases?
samcintyre jta: seems like a good idea to keep the most recent release per active branch.
samcintyre hmm.
jta that sounds fine -- just moving the oldest to the archives would help free space
samcintyre Except can't really call the 10.1 branch active, since we can't release from it
without overhauling all the license headers, and I don't think there'd be much interest in
doing that.
jta :-)
samcintyre Anyway, keeping latest on branch for current_branch + (current_branch - 1) seems
like a good policy.
samcintyre itself is almost a hundred megs.
samcintyre keeping just and would drop derby's disk usage from 380M to 175M
samcintyre (meant there)
jta any reason to keep on the mirrors? if it's available from the archives?
samcintyre oh, as for your other question: "are archives mirrored?"
samcintyre no, it's more like the mirrors are archived. Anything put into /www/www.apache.org/dist
is automatically copied to /www/archive.apache.org/dist
jta that would be an issue if there were vast downloads for a release in the archives, but
that seems unlikely for a 10.1 release
samcintyre nah, i guess not, people mostly just want the latest, i would assume.jta I'd expect
the highest download hits against the latest
jta maybe an occasional hit against the archives. if a problem came up and we anticipated
lots of downloads for a prior release, we could always move it back to the mirrors, right?
samcintyre true
samcintyre so the changes would be pretty straightforward, though there are several: remove
the mirror selection section and form from the HTML page, replace [preferred] with http://archive.apache.org/,
and then make the derby_downloads page link directly to the HTML and not the cgi. And then
remove the cgi script for that release.
jta at least it could be reviewed before being published. :-)
jta There's some work, which won't be instantaneous. want me to open a jira issue?
samcintyre yes, please. that'll give others an opportunity to pick it up.
jta sounds good
samcintyre (not much time to do it today, probably wouldn't get to it until late next week
if it were left up to me)
jta and they don't have to be moved all at once
samcintyre although, i'd have time to review if somebody posted a patch.
samcintyre true
jta I opened DERBY-2428, I'll attach our IRC chat to a comment

> Move older releases from www.apache.org/dist/ to archive.apache.org/dist
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: DERBY-2428
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2428
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Task
>          Components: Web Site
>    Affects Versions:,,
>            Reporter: Jean T. Anderson
> Derby releases are consuming much space on the Apache mirrors. It's time to move older
releases to the archives.

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