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From "Andrew McIntyre (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (DERBY-2196) Run standalone network server with security manager by default
Date Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:44:05 GMT

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Andrew McIntyre commented on DERBY-2196:
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So, after looking into the security mechanisms a little deeper, it turns out that the issue
was in fact already discussed, and JIRA issues filed for the problems blocking the use of
encryption as the default. See DERBY-926, DERBY-1517 and DERBY-1755 for the current issues
with username/password encryption, as well as the extensive discussions in DERBY-528 and DERBY-928.

Assuming the issues listed above can be fixed, I don't see a need for having a separate noWireEncryption
flag, but simply always using an encrypted connection mechanism. Not sure what the expected
client behavior would be for new client / old server if the client can't negotiate an encrypted
protocol. Failing down to an unencrypted security mechanism would probably not be desirable
from a secure-out-of-the-box standpoint.



> Run standalone network server with security manager by default
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-2196
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2196
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Network Server, Security
>            Reporter: Daniel John Debrunner
>         Assigned To: Rick Hillegas
>         Attachments: derby-2196-01-print-01.diff, derby-2196-01-print-02.diff, derby-2196-01-print-03.diff,
derby-2196-02-install-01.diff, derby-2196-03-tests-01.diff, secureServer.html, secureServer.html,
secureServer.html, secureServer.html, secureServer.html, secureServer.html
>
>
> From an e-mail discussion:
> ... Derby should match the security  provided by typical client server systems such as
DB2, Oracle, etc. I 
> think in this case system/database owners are trusting the database 
> system to ensure that their system cannot be attacked. So maybe if Derby 
> is booted as a standalone server with no security manager involved, it 
> should install one with a default security policy. Thus allowing Derby 
> to use Java security manager to manage system privileges but not 
> requiring everyone to become familiar with them.
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200612.mbox/%3c4582FE67.7040308@apache.org%3e
> I imagine such a policy would allow any access to databases under derby.system.home and/or
user.home.
> By standalone I mean the network server was started though the main() method (command
line).

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