Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 55826 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2006 23:21:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Dec 2006 23:21:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1857 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2006 23:20:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 1631 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2006 23:20:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 1530 invoked by uid 99); 11 Dec 2006 23:20:40 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:20:40 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.4] (HELO brutus.apache.org) (140.211.11.4) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:20:02 -0800 Received: from brutus (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brutus.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9633971413F for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:19:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9665138.1165879161591.JavaMail.jira@brutus> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:19:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel John Debrunner (JIRA)" To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-2109) System privileges In-Reply-To: <5831879.1164211141923.JavaMail.jira@brutus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2109?page=comments#action_12457508 ] Daniel John Debrunner commented on DERBY-2109: ---------------------------------------------- Rick thanks for writing this up and looking & proposing how to use the Java SecurityManager. I would not have the fake concept of a " System Administrator ". With descriptions like this it's better to be precise in the functional specification, maybe the user documentation could explain it in more detail using the concept of a System Administrator. e.g. in the functional spec replace sentances like this: If the engine runs under a SecurityManager, then only a System Administrator can halt the engine. with the technially correct version of: If the engine runs under a SecurityManager, then the shutdownEngine DerbyPermission is required. Since I assume since these are Java permissions that they can be granted to code as well as Principles or are they restricted in some way? E.g. can I grant shutdown engine to all code? I would not use DerbyPermission for the class name, the class name should describe permissions it is covering, maybe org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission ? The code should not assume the Princple implementation is DerbyPrinciple, seems like it would be useful to be able to use other implementations of Principle. E.g. the existing UserAuthenticator class could be expanded to have a new method public Principle getPrinciple(String userName) allowing use of existing implementations such as X500Principal or the Principle implementation returned from an LDAP setup. Similar naming concerns for DerbyPrinciple, the class is already in the derby namespace so it should be obvious that it's a Derby user, I think it's really something like: org.apache.derby.authentication.DatabasePrinciple ?? > System privileges > ----------------- > > Key: DERBY-2109 > URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2109 > Project: Derby > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: Security > Affects Versions: 10.3.0.0 > Reporter: Rick Hillegas > Fix For: 10.3.0.0 > > Attachments: systemPrivs.html > > > Add mechanisms for controlling system-level privileges in Derby. See the related email discussion at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.db.derby.devel/33151. > The 10.2 GRANT/REVOKE work was a big step forward in making Derby more secure in a client/server configuration. I'd like to plug more client/server security holes in 10.3. In particular, I'd like to focus on authorization issues which the ANSI spec doesn't address. > Here are the important issues which came out of the email discussion. > Missing privileges that are above the level of a single database: > - Create Database > - Shutdown all databases > - Shutdown System > Missing privileges specific to a particular database: > - Shutdown that Database > - Encrypt that database > - Upgrade database > - Create (in that Database) Java Plugins (currently Functions/Procedures, but someday Aggregates and VTIs) > Note that 10.2 gave us GRANT/REVOKE control over the following database-specific issues, via granting execute privilege to system procedures: > Jar Handling > Backup Routines > Admin Routines > Import/Export > Property Handling > Check Table > In addition, since 10.0, the privilege of connecting to a database has been controlled by two properties (derby.database.fullAccessUsers and derby.database.defaultConnectionMode) as described in the security section of the Developer's Guide (see http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.2/devguide/cdevcsecure865818.html). -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira