Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 13333 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2006 00:06:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Sep 2006 00:06:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 87772 invoked by uid 500); 13 Sep 2006 00:06:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 87739 invoked by uid 500); 13 Sep 2006 00:06:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 87730 invoked by uid 99); 13 Sep 2006 00:06:02 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.42.249] (HELO nwkea-pix-1.sun.com) (192.18.42.249) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:06:01 -0700 Received: from d1-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.39.120]) by nwkea-pix-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k8D05aMR010979 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-10.sun.com by d1-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) id <0J5I00M01893CV00@d1-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (c-24-6-172-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.172.77]) by d1-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0J5I00I4N89BN460@d1-sfbay-10.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:05:33 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: 10.2 plans (was Re: 10.2 licensing issue) Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: "Kathey Marsden (JIRA)" Message-id: <9CD06B85-D870-4822-AEAE-F69F3AF37FF8@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-143--589892456; micalg=sha1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-143--589892456 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-142--589893141 --Apple-Mail-142--589893141 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am impressed with Dan's Option B. It solves all of my issues (IANAL). 1. Users get binary release of 10.2 features (except for JDBC4) out of the box. 2. Users who want to play developer get to build the sources to expose JDBC4 with their own copy of JDK 1.6 which encumbers themselves. 3. And since we are already shipping it in source form, we can vote to add JDBC4 binary in a maintenance release (once JDK 1.6 goes final) by recompiling with a different flag (jdk16) in the build process (and testing, testing, testing). There is clearly work to do now to adapt the 10.2 bits to match the proposal, but much less than other options we've recently looked at. Craig Craig Russell clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo --Apple-Mail-142--589893141 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am impressed with Dan's=A0Option= B. It solves all of my issues (IANAL).=A0

1. Users get binary release = of 10.2 features (except for JDBC4) out of the box.=A0

2. Users who want to play = developer get to build the sources to expose JDBC4 with their own copy = of JDK 1.6 which encumbers themselves.=A0

3. And since we are already = shipping it in source form, we can vote to add JDBC4 binary in a = maintenance release (once JDK 1.6 goes final) by recompiling with a = different flag (jdk16) in the build process (and testing, testing, = testing).

There is = clearly work to do now to adapt the 10.2 bits to match the proposal, but = much less than other options we've recently looked at.

Craig

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