Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 31489 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2006 19:21:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Sep 2006 19:21:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 36133 invoked by uid 500); 29 Sep 2006 19:20:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 35966 invoked by uid 500); 29 Sep 2006 19:20:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 35915 invoked by uid 99); 29 Sep 2006 19:20:45 -0000 Received: from idunn.apache.osuosl.org (HELO idunn.apache.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:20:45 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= Received: from [192.18.42.249] ([192.18.42.249:23437] helo=nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com) by idunn.apache.osuosl.org (ecelerity 2.1.1.8 r(12930)) with ESMTP id 29/0C-13110-3D17D154 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:20:13 -0700 Received: from d1-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.39.119]) by nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k8TJIWg1023128 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-09.sun.com by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0J6D00701C8F8X00@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Richard.Hillegas@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.20.122] by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0J6D00D7RCARVTVK@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:18:31 -0700 From: Rick Hillegas Subject: 10.2.1.5 status Sender: Richard.Hillegas@Sun.COM To: Derby Development Message-id: <451D7187.7010302@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N First the good news: 1) So far, no one has found any showstopping runtime problems with the product itself. 2) We've seen a marked decrease in the rate at which problems in the release structure pop up. Now for the bad news: 3) A week into vetting, we've found some more issues with the release structure and with the release notes. Once I understand the next rash of edits to the release notes, I'm inclined to spin a new release candidate and call a new vote. However, I'm concerned that we haven't found all of the structural problems yet and I'm worried about exhausting the community's patience by re-starting the test/vote cycle too many times. Would it be useful to do the following: A) Post a new release candidate but don't call a vote yet. Just let the existing vote continue. B) Ask the structure experts to scrutinize the new candidate carefully. C) Call a new vote only after the structure experts are satisfied. I would appreciate the community's advice about how to proceed. Thanks, -Rick