Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 20044 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2006 18:24:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Aug 2006 18:24:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 92520 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2006 18:24:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 92492 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2006 18:24:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 92480 invoked by uid 99); 10 Aug 2006 18:24:15 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:24:15 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.42.249] (HELO nwkea-pix-1.sun.com) (192.18.42.249) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:24:04 -0700 Received: from d1-sfbay-06.sun.com ([192.18.39.116]) by nwkea-pix-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k7AINbe1020560 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-06.sun.com by d1-sfbay-06.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) id <0J3S00501NVF3Y00@d1-sfbay-06.sun.com> (original mail from David.Vancouvering@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.9.61.102] by d1-sfbay-06.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0J3S004A1OFDH400@d1-sfbay-06.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:23:44 -0700 From: David Van Couvering Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1664) Derby startup time is too slow In-reply-to: <10165411.1155233595306.JavaMail.jira@brutus> Sender: David.Vancouvering@Sun.COM To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: <44DB79B0.5060507@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <10165411.1155233595306.JavaMail.jira@brutus> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060427) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I recognize this bug is too vague, but I wanted to get something into the system so we can start investigating it. If I knew what "fast enough" was, then perhaps we could have a measure to close it. If you were to ask me, "fast enough" is no more than 3 seconds with the default configuration. 5 seconds is pushing it. What do others think? From a user's perspective it's irrelevant what component is causing the delay, it just takes too long (e.g. when I run 'connect jdbc:derby:mydb;create=true'). Also you of course need to describe the hardware configuration. It all gets so nitpicky, when what we're after is fixing a perception. Maybe it can be created as a project on the Wiki with a series of JIRAs attached to it? David Daniel John Debrunner (JIRA) wrote: > [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1664?page=comments#action_12427303 ] > > Daniel John Debrunner commented on DERBY-1664: > ---------------------------------------------- > > Might be good to separate this out into: > > 1) driver load time > 2) database create time > 3) database open time > 4) create table (first SQL command?) time > > Also bugs like this tend to be problematic, when exactly does one close them. Better to identify specific improvements that can be made and address those. > >> Derby startup time is too slow >> ------------------------------ >> >> Key: DERBY-1664 >> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1664 >> Project: Derby >> Issue Type: Bug >> Components: Store >> Reporter: David Van Couvering >> Fix For: 10.2.0.0 >> >> >> I know it's hard to measure what "too slow" is, but this is a common complaint and this affects overall perception of Derby. This appears to be related to another common complaint that it takes too long to create tables. I am marking this as Urgent because of the impact it has to Derby perception and the fact that the 10.2 release is going to get such wide distribution through the Sun JDK. >> For background, see http://www.nabble.com/Startup-time-tf2012748.html#a5531684 >