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From Daniel John Debrunner <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Copyrights
Date Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:17:27 GMT
Rick Hillegas wrote:

> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> 
>> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Daniel John Debrunner wrote:   
>>>
>>>> Rick Hillegas wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> 3) Are there other unclear issues?
>>>>>       
>>
>> ...
>> This point from DERBY-1377 is falling into the cracks:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1377#action_12422783 says
>>> this:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Copyright 1997, 2004 The Apache Software Foundation or its
>>>> licensors, as applicable.
>>>>
>>>> Removing these might require the permission of the actual copyright
>>>> holders, which might be a pain to track down as to who has copyright
>>>> on each file (allowing multiple holders per file). The new ASF
>>>> policy does allow copyright notices to be left in the header (but
>>>> would prefer not to).     
>>>
>>> Is there a resolution for this?
>>>   
>>
>>
>> Dan, you expressed concern about handling of the "Copyright 1997, 2004
>> The Apache Software Foundation or its licensors, as applicable." line.
>> How do you think that should be handled?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> -jean
>>  
>>
> I'm afraid I don't understand the issue here. Is it one of the following:
> 
> A) We don't know who the "licensors" are and are wondering if we have to
> identify the licensors and ask their permission?
> 
> B) The verbiage above implies a copyright claim by the individual
> contributor (or the company which hired the contributor) and we are
> wondering if we have to identify these contributors/companies and ask
> their permission?

I think A) & B) are the same.

Legally you cannot remove someone else's copyright notice without
permission, though as far as I understand the law is weak on shared
copright.

I will ask legal-disucss, now I understand what I have to ask.

Dan.


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