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From David Van Couvering <David.Vancouver...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: Choice of JMX implementations
Date Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:39:28 GMT
Looks like we may have a winner... It would be interesting to see how 
they use it -- do they have it available only for pre-Java 5 VMs, or is 
it used regardless of what VM is being used?

How big is the MX4J jar file?

And what time is it in India, Sanket?

David

Sanket Sharma wrote:
> Following apache projects are also known to use MX4J:
> Geronimo,
> Avalon-Phonenix
> Tomcat
> 
> Regards,
> Sanket
> 
> On 7/14/06, Jean T. Anderson <jta@bristowhill.com> wrote:
>> thanks for checking the hivemind download, Andreas.
>>
>> I checked the geronimo.1.1 download and it does include the mx4j jars.
>> Its NOTICE file also has this attribution:
>>
>> > 
>> =========================================================================
>> > ==  MX4J 
>> Notice                                                        ==
>> > 
>> =========================================================================
>> >
>> > This product includes software developed by the MX4J project
>> > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mx4j).
>>
>>
>>  -jean
>>
>>
>>
>> Andreas Korneliussen wrote:
>> > Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew McIntyre wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> If the goal is to repackage any of these, I'm not sure that will be
>> >>> possible with any of the following, except for Apache Commons
>> >>> Modelling, but is that actually an implementation?
>> >>>
>> >>> For information on compatibility of other open source licenses with
>> >>> the ASL, see: http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html
>> >>>
>> >>> On 7/13/06, Sanket Sharma <sanketsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >>>>         4. MX4J
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> This has a modified BSD license with an advertising clause, and a
>> >>> restriction to downstream projects on naming. Not that we'd ever name
>> >>> our project MX4J, but it's an extra restriction that isn't in the 
>> ASL,
>> >>> so we might need to get a determination from legal-discuss on whether
>> >>> this is acceptable to redistribute.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> here's one precedent for using MX4J at apache (and there might be 
>> more):
>> >>
>> >> 
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/hivemind/hivemind-jmx/setupJMXImplementation.html 
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > They are using it for development, and testing. However the users need
>> > to  download mx4j themselves, or download another JMX 
>> implementation, or
>> > use java 5.
>> >
>> > See http://jakarta.apache.org/hivemind/hivemind-jmx/quickstart.html
>> >
>> > I downloaded hivemind-1-1-1, and could not find any redistribution of
>> > mx4j there.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> >
>> >>  -jean
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

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