Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 56332 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2006 15:55:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Jun 2006 15:55:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 77577 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jun 2006 15:44:01 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 77511 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jun 2006 15:44:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 77474 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jun 2006 15:44:00 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:44:00 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.98.34] (HELO brmea-mail-3.sun.com) (192.18.98.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:43:59 -0700 Received: from phys-epost-1 ([129.159.136.14]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k5NFhctT024920 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.epost-mail1.sweden.sun.com by epost-mail1.sweden.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0J1B00A01KRA9M@epost-mail1.sweden.sun.com> (original mail from Andreas.Korneliussen@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:43:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [129.159.112.247] (khepri35.Norway.Sun.COM [129.159.112.247]) by epost-mail1.sweden.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0J1B003V1L0PNW@epost-mail1.sweden.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:43:38 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:43:37 +0200 From: Andreas Korneliussen Subject: Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue In-reply-to: <449B3321.6080701@bristowhill.com> To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Reply-to: Andreas.Korneliussen@Sun.COM Message-id: <449C0C29.6090102@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060427) References: <449B3321.6080701@bristowhill.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jean T. Anderson wrote: > David posted a good summary of the legal catch-22 at [1]. But the > shortest story is: > > + Mustang wants to ship a GA Derby 10.2, which supports JDBC 4.0. > + Derby can't ship a GA 10.2 until JDBC 4.0 is GA, which is with Mustang. > > Let's keep this thread confined to the JCP issue Andrew raised that to > roll a release candidate qualifies as "creation".[2] And those release > candidates will be generally available. > > How do we handle this cleanly? > I think, by following the schedule Rick has proposed, we will handle this cleanly. August 25 - Begin vetting 10.2 release candidate End of October - Expected GA of JDBC4 with Mustang End of October - GA of Derby 10.2. Release promoted to Apache mirrors. As you can see from the schedule, Derby 10.2 does not go GA when we start the vetting of the release candidate. Building a RC is not the same as going GA. As for alpha/beta bits: they should not be set on a release candidate. The vetted bits are the final bits if the community votes for the release. As far as I know, they were not set on the recently rejected 10.1.3 RC. Andreas