From derby-dev-return-21410-apmail-db-derby-dev-archive=db.apache.org@db.apache.org Thu Jun 01 18:59:59 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61899 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2006 18:59:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2006 18:59:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 32983 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2006 18:59:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 32938 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2006 18:59:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 32889 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2006 18:59:55 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:59:55 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.182.143] (HELO e3.ny.us.ibm.com) (32.97.182.143) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:59:53 -0700 Received: from d01relay04.pok.ibm.com (d01relay04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.236]) by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k51IxSsk004621 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:59:28 -0400 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by d01relay04.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k51IxO9J108322 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:59:28 -0400 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k51IxOq5020271 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:59:24 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sig-9-65-24-184.mts.ibm.com [9.65.24.184]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k51IxI3x019841 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:59:23 -0400 Message-ID: <447F3906.9090403@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:59:18 -0700 From: Kathey Marsden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: Testing & Classpath concern References: <447F124C.5040705@apache.org> <20060601171428.GB3728@localhost.localdomain> <447F2242.6000802@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <447F2242.6000802@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Daniel John Debrunner wrote: >That's a good way to look at it, controlled environment including: > > > One thing to consider is that the uncontrolled environment and the fact that it uses whatever classpath the user running the tests has has actually exposed various bugs regarding classpath order and the interaction of multiple jars in the user classpath. I wonder how we could add controlled environment testing for those kinds of issues. Kathey