Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40009 invoked from network); 31 May 2006 14:12:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 May 2006 14:12:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 76110 invoked by uid 500); 31 May 2006 14:12:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 75912 invoked by uid 500); 31 May 2006 14:12:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 75903 invoked by uid 99); 31 May 2006 14:12:30 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:12:30 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [68.142.198.206] (HELO smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.198.206) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 31 May 2006 07:12:28 -0700 Received: (qmail 3654 invoked from network); 31 May 2006 14:12:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (kmarsden@sbcglobal.net@70.137.145.213 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 May 2006 14:12:02 -0000 Message-ID: <447DA443.3000706@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:12:19 -0700 From: Kathey Marsden User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Code formatting debate, confusion and wasted time , Has it gone on long enough? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N In a comment in DERBY-1302 Knut Anders said .... >If we want to reindent large parts of the code, I think we should do >it sometime after 10.1.3 is released and before the 10.2 branch is >created, and we should try to use a style that is used elsewhere in >the code (I prefer tab-free code myself). Perhaps we have all lived in the code formatting "Tower of Babel" long enough. I think code formatting like language doesn't matter as long as everyone understands it and it is consistent. I would like to propose that we: 1) Choose and document a format. I think everyone can agree to get rid of the tabs. Otherwise ... The volunteer doing the work gets to propose the format and only very serious objections should be raised in the interest of getting this done. Some Apache examples are at: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/faqs.html#Coding%20Conventions%20and%20Standards 2) Set a date six weeks out from the completion of the code formatting documentation for the reformat so folks can plan accordingly. 3) See if there are volunteers willing to determine the correct settings for Eclipse, Net Beans and other IDE's. 4) On the reformatting date, reformat both the trunk and the 10.1 branch so that fixes can be merged easily. Extra credit, think about long term maintenance, checking, and auto-formatting. Does anyone have any objections to a plan like this? If not I will create a Jira entry and subtasks. Anyone tired enough of this issue to take on this task? Kathey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel