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From Manish Khettry <manish_khet...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Code formatting debate, confusion and wasted time , Has it gone on long enough?
Date Wed, 31 May 2006 20:31:14 GMT
does it work well when the source is printed? why not
just use spaces to indent instead of redefining a tab?
I'm curious-- what do other apache projects say in
this regard? 

Sorry, but I can't resist participating in religious
debates :)


--- Rick Hillegas <Richard.Hillegas@Sun.COM> wrote:

> Before injecting a massive singularity into our code
> archaeology, I 
> would like to better understand the passionate
> objection to tabs. Let me 
> explain my perspective: I use a crude, old-fashioned
> editor called 
> emacs. My tabs are configured at 4 space intervals.
> With this setting, I 
> almost never have a problem reading the existing
> code. So who is having 
> problems and why? Do other people's IDEs silently
> bulk reformat the 
> code? Can that behavior be disabled? Could we be
> satisfied with the 
> following simple rules, which used to satisfy us
> nine years ago:
> 
> 1) Ladies and gentlemen, set your tabs to four
> spaces.
> 2) Don't bulk reformat other people's code.
> 
> I hope we are not headed into a religious war.
> 
> Regards,
> -Rick
> 
> Myrna van Lunteren wrote:
> 
> > On 5/31/06, Rodrigo Madera
> <rodrigo.madera@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Why do you all hate tabs sooo much??
> >>
> >> On 5/31/06, Bernt M. Johnsen
> <Bernt.Johnsen@sun.com> wrote:
> >> > I heartily agree. We definitely need an
> enforced standard on
> >> > this.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> > And, we should definitely get rid of the tabs.
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> > I personally can happily accept whatever standard
> is decided on, and
> > I'll admit I like making tabs. :-)
> >
> > But, when looking at code, you cannot tell whether
> you see tabs or
> > spaces unless you actually scroll over the blank
> bits with a cursor
> > key...
> >
> > Also, in most editors tabs are configurable to
> 'mean' (be represented)
> > varying number of spaces, and thus, open to
> interpretation. It gets
> > even worse when you think of using IDEs - these
> automatically create
> > the idents for you based. Some tools will convert
> tabs into spaces
> > when you perform cut-and-paste...
> >
> > All in all, when working with a group of people,
> it's easy to end up
> > with a mishmash of tabs and spaces and especially
> with having a mix of
> > tabs and spaces on the same line is very
> confusing.
> >
> > Settling on the non-configurable 'space' seems
> cleanest.
> >
> > Myrna
> 
> 
> 


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