Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 82907 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2006 17:16:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 17:16:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 42049 invoked by uid 500); 26 Apr 2006 17:16:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 42019 invoked by uid 500); 26 Apr 2006 17:16:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 42010 invoked by uid 99); 26 Apr 2006 17:16:58 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:16:58 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of mcintyre.a@gmail.com designates 64.233.182.188 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.182.188] (HELO nproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.182.188) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:16:57 -0700 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q29so1253269nfc for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:16:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hldmRmq7s5o1lr4vxkarKpnMdAnr6qLFvy75vnmQ1cNaiWGnMWZEQD07CoC0TbBE9gCiII/SlkEoev5+WW3uNzj6PuF2PlvhgCylFzkQh9Y/+jw1OLRA4xXIHWcUli83p42FXzE8aXGn+ZtoymMNckkCp0rZqJHBXXnuXXWDUDk= Received: by 10.48.246.10 with SMTP id t10mr4786722nfh; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.14.15 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54ac72d70604261016w2cafde98yf2de721f8e811dec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:16:36 -0700 From: "Andrew McIntyre" To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: 10.2 release in August? In-Reply-To: <444FA859.90707@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <444F87DC.9090906@apache.org> <444FA859.90707@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 4/26/06, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > > Knut Anders Hatlen wrote: > > > You make valid points, and I wholeheartedly agree that we should do a > > better job with documenting our snapshots. But, as I'm sure you know, > > alpha quality snapshots cannot be used in production. > > Yes, but we want the feedback early so we can fix bugs before people use > the software in production systems. > > If you want feedback on SUR then I strongly encourage you to post a > 10.2alpha snapshot that contains SUR, write an intro/overview that > explains what functionality you want people to test, point them to the > SUR documentation, and spread the word through the derby-user list and > any other avenues you want. We all probably need to be more pro-active > about encouraging feedback on new features, I'm not sure pushing for a > release is the correct way to do that. +1 Same goes for JDBC 4.0, too. It would be good for people outside of derby-dev to be looking at these features. andrew