Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 70966 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2006 19:46:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 2006 19:46:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 46970 invoked by uid 500); 27 Apr 2006 19:46:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 46935 invoked by uid 500); 27 Apr 2006 19:46:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 46926 invoked by uid 99); 27 Apr 2006 19:46:14 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:46:14 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 66.75.162.134 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.75.162.134] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com) (66.75.162.134) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:46:13 -0700 Received: from [192.168.15.53] (cpe-204-210-23-212.san.res.rr.com [204.210.23.212]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3RJjqvr016546 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44511F6F.5040709@bristowhill.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:45:51 -0700 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: 10.2 release in August? References: <54ac72d70604260906h3d7554f3sdfcf20ae17a80d55@mail.gmail.com> <444F9D6B.9090002@bristowhill.com> <44511E82.3050309@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <44511E82.3050309@sun.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Michelle Caisse wrote: > Jean T. Anderson wrote: > >> One clarifying procedural note ... voting guidelines for releases are >> here: >> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes >> >> A release requires three binding +1 votes -- db pmc votes are binding >> for derby. A -1 expresses an opinion, but can't actually veto a release. >> That much said, the community should consider any -1 votes. >> > Can you point me to where it says that pmc votes are binding for Derby? > I see that http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html says "the basic > rule is that only PMC members have binding votes", but according to > http://db.apache.org/decisions.html, only committers have binding > votes. By my reading, Apache gives precedence to the community rules. PMCs fall under ASF guidelines. If you've noticed recent derby vote threads, committers and db pmc members are always identified in the final result post. We haven't have a situation yet where a derby vote had fewer than 3 db pmc votes, so it hasn't been an issue. -jean