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From Rick Hillegas <Richard.Hille...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: New query language
Date Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:14:24 GMT
Hi Jean,

I share your general sense of disappointment with SQL but I don't think 
that this community could do much better.

1) SQL is a language designed by a committee. That's why it's so 
sprawling and inconsistent. I think that, very quickly, another 
community-designed language would be just as big and ambiguous.

2) Despite all the problems with SQL, it gets the job done. There's a 
lot of inertia behind it and it would be tough to sell a new language to 
the larger user community. That, at least, was my experience years ago 
when I worked on an experimental database trying to do exactly what you 
propose: design a next generation query language.


Jean Morissette wrote:

>SQL has a lot of problems; it is incomplete, unfriendly, unsound, too
>huge, confusing, inconsistent, etc. [1, 2, 3]  It is the more ugly
>language that I ever see.
>For many reasons, it seems that no DBMS vendor is interested to create
>a better language.  So my question: why don't we - the open source
>community - take the lead and create a new language that could be the
>basis for a future standard?
>[1] http://web.onetel.com/~hughdarwen/TheThirdManifesto/HAVING-A-Blunderful-Time.html
>[2] http://www.thethirdmanifesto.com/
>[3] http://www.ipipan.waw.pl/~subieta/artykuly/CritiqObjAlg.html

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