Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48515 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2006 00:46:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 00:46:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 31157 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2006 00:46:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 31116 invoked by uid 500); 24 Mar 2006 00:46:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 31107 invoked by uid 99); 24 Mar 2006 00:46:46 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:46:46 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.182.143] (HELO e3.ny.us.ibm.com) (32.97.182.143) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:46:45 -0800 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2O0kDV5014837 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:46:13 -0500 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k2O0k3Yw181846 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:46:03 -0500 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k2O0k3M3027093 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:46:03 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sig-9-48-116-42.mts.ibm.com [9.48.116.42]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2O0k0Ww027007 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:46:02 -0500 Message-ID: <44234148.8040902@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:46:00 -0800 From: Kathey Marsden User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: IRC chat summary References: <17443.14675.357553.540531@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <44233AA7.4030109@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <44233AA7.4030109@sun.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David W. Van Couvering wrote: > One comment: I do hope that once we hit feature freeze that we can > spend some time stabilizing the release, having a "bug-fix fest". We > don't *have* to immediately go to GA release as soon as feature freeze > is complete. Maybe we could in the past, when we had fewer bugs and > fewer contributions, but now perhaps we need a longer stabilization > period. Maybe a release criteria could include a reduction in bugs by > a certain percentage. > In addition to release criteria, it might be prudent to have some sort of periodic comprehensive quality checkpoint and have some some sort of criteria for continuing to accept new features. Folks get so head down on their tasks, but sometimes the big picture needs looking at. I think at least a "Regression" checkbox in Jira could flag regressions and we could set some sort of minimum acceptability standard for that. Kathey