Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48658 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2006 20:25:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Feb 2006 20:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 850 invoked by uid 500); 27 Feb 2006 20:25:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 799 invoked by uid 500); 27 Feb 2006 20:25:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 783 invoked by uid 99); 27 Feb 2006 20:25:54 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:25:54 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.110.151] (HELO e33.co.us.ibm.com) (32.97.110.151) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:25:53 -0800 Received: from westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.11]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1RKPXfP021796 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:25:33 -0500 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.168]) by westrelay02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.8) with ESMTP id k1RKN2Pc219938 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:23:02 -0700 Received: from d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k1RKPVuR026011 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:25:31 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (DMCSDJDT41P.svl.ibm.com [9.30.145.59]) by d03av02.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1RKPTfX025910 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:25:30 -0700 Message-ID: <44036039.6030708@apache.org> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:25:29 -0800 From: Daniel John Debrunner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: derbytools.jar loading derbyclient.jar References: <44034D3D.4050904@sbcglobal.net> <54ac72d70602271131v51b76b0pb97b51e1f2c6d431@mail.gmail.com> <44035C50.5030203@apache.org> <54ac72d70602271221q576af892k3eb821d423a31101@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54ac72d70602271221q576af892k3eb821d423a31101@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Andrew McIntyre wrote: > On 2/27/06, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > >>Let's not rush into removing this feature, which is really useful for >>the majority of Derby users. Let's understand the impact on existing >>users and see what the best way forward is. > > > Ack! Read this about two seconds too late. But, it's certainly easy > enough to put back. Yep, easy to put back. Good though, to let the discussion evolve so that others in different time-zones can join in. > I'll file another JIRA for investigating the compatibility impact of > adding the Class-Path attribute to derbytools.jar Isn't DERBY-1019 the correct place for this? Dan.