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From Daniel John Debrunner <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: default holdability
Date Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:58:03 GMT
Andreas Korneliussen wrote:

> Currently Derby supports a limited combination of ResultSet types and
> Resultset concurrency modes. Common for all the current combinations, is
> that Derby can support HOLD_CURSORS_OVER_COMMIT, however for future
> combinations this may be a problem.
> We have a problem in that Derby may not be architected to correctly
> implement "holdable" scrollable updatable resultsets (SUR), and as a
> fallback, we may consider not to support the holdabilitiy for SUR.
> I also saw some JIRAs with synopsis:
> Derby-1005: "Holdability for a connection should automatically become
> CLOSE_CURSORS_AT_COMMIT for a global transaction."
> and
> Derby-1006:"Client allows setHoldability to HOLD_CURSORS_OVER_COMMIT  on
> both connection and statement in a global transaction "
> I am not sure these are relevant for the discussion, however it seems to
> me that there are other places in the system where Derby cannot support

I think before any SUR changes the only place where holdability is not
supported is within global (XA) transactions.

If the initial implementation of SUR doesn't support holdable result
sets then I think that's a great first step.

> I think Derby is architected to support the holdability mode
> CLOSE_CURSOR_AT_COMMIT by all combinations of ResultSets.
> I therefore find it reasonable to consider changing the *default*

This is of course a incompatible change for existing applications, and
has the potential to break them.

> Clients which depend on HOLD_CURSOR_OVER_COMMIT, should as a consequence
> explictly set the holdability. I think that a client should not depend
> on holdability mode without specifying it from the application, or at
> least check the DatabaseMetadata.getDefaultHoldability() and then call
> setHoldability() on the Connection it if it depends on something else.
> If Derby cannot support the specified holdability for a specific
> resultset type, Derby could downgrade the holdabiltiy, and give a warning.

The JDBC 3.0 spec is silent on this, sections 14.1.1 and 14.1.2 describe
what can be done when a ResultSet type or concurrency is not supported.
However in 14.1.3 there is no comment about what can be done when a
requested holdability is not supported. Also ResultSet does not have a
getHoldability method to allow the application to determine if its
request was honoured or not.

I just can't see the value in changing the default behaviour and
affecting existing applications because holdability is not supported in
two cases.

I seem to remember that most users assumed Cloudscape in the past
supported holdable results sets and expected it to be the default. They
 were suprised when it didn't.


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