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From Daniel John Debrunner <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-879) The Getting Started Guide is incomplete (section: Installing and working with Derby) and so not helpful to new users
Date Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:08:24 GMT
scott hutinger (JIRA) wrote:

>     [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-879?page=comments#action_12364221 ]

> scott hutinger commented on DERBY-879:
> --------------------------------------
> I think this it's important to get a reality check on the useability of the docs.  I
think most unix people take the windows docs (although this shouldn't be the case) and translate
to whatever shell they like, because this is what we do without thinking about it.
> I can get my wife to try installing derby in windows (wow, that does scare me), but I
would agree with someone else that possibly an installer should be created for setting up
all the 'crud' that should be set.  I would prefer to get an installer, but http://www.izforge.com/izpack/
is GPL, I guess one would have to find some possibly simpler method to install (mainly on
windows).  Although at least a script, in a couple different shells should at least be setup
for unix/linux/ etc.  One could argue that most people that use the 'non-norm' know how to
setup the system, but I don't think this is always the case.
> Any good ideas about fixing this problem?  It would be nice to have an installer that
isn't GPL and would fit within the Apache license, but I haven't done the research on this...

One way to start solving these types of issues is to see what other
Apache projects do. Typically such problems have already been faced by
other projects, that's part of the purpose of Derby being here, to take
gain synergy from existing work.

For example I think I remember Tomcat had some GUI installer.


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