Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 44626 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2005 17:11:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Dec 2005 17:11:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 99637 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2005 17:10:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 99563 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2005 17:10:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 99496 invoked by uid 99); 7 Dec 2005 17:10:39 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:10:39 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.110.151] (HELO e33.co.us.ibm.com) (32.97.110.151) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:10:35 -0800 Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB7HADI3001713 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:10:13 -0500 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (d03av03.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.169]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jB7HBlSn043832 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:11:47 -0700 Received: from d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB7HADY0030007 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:10:13 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (DMCSDJDT41P.usca.ibm.com [9.72.133.55]) by d03av03.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB7HABKa029868 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:10:12 -0700 Message-ID: <43971773.7030405@debrunners.com> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:10:11 -0800 From: Daniel John Debrunner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: clobber target References: <43887C35.8080501@sbcglobal.net> <54ac72d70512061501p1033e7f1wb99b9d45a7b39f93@mail.gmail.com> <439632E5.8010800@amberpoint.com> <54ac72d70512061718m23ab010ftbd382dd299ad2f27@mail.gmail.com> <43965139.2090509@amberpoint.com> <4396AFCD.1040204@sun.com> <4396FE77.8060803@amberpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <4396FE77.8060803@amberpoint.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Bryan Pendleton wrote: > What I don't understand is a target that *cleans* only the classes, and > not the jars. I think it makes it too easy for the distracted developer > to accidentally run with the wrong code, by using the old jars. I think some of it is history with the product. The Cloudscape jars, when it was a closed source product, took a long time to build and the process needed a machine with a lot of memeory. This was due to the obfuscation process. Thus developers typically did not build the jars, only the classes, and the build scripts were set up to reflect that. Dan.