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From Knut Anders Hatlen <Knut.Hat...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Derby logo
Date Tue, 06 Dec 2005 07:47:27 GMT
Oyvind.Bakksjo@Sun.COM writes:

> Brian Smith wrote:
>> I am not a committer. But, I am curious about why you don't have a
>> "No Logo" option or a "Wait for more submissions" option.
>> Firstly, I think that they name "Derby" is a reference to racing,
>> which implies that the product is fast. This is a good
>> association. However, most entries seem to be based on that fact
>> that "derby" *could* also refer to a type of hat that most people
>> have absolutely no knowledge of. I don't see how this allusion to
>> obscure trivia is useful to the project. Besides that, there are
>> already major, successful open-source projects using hat logos (Red
>> Hat and Fedora). Therefore, I believe that the hat logos are all
>> fundamentally unhelpful, regardless of their impressive artistic
>> merits.
>> Secondly, it seems like this logo idea was just conceived a very
>> short time ago. The next version of Derby won't be released for some
>> time. I don't understand why these kinds of marketing decisions
>> cannot be deferred to a time closer to the release date. Since there
>> is no pressing need for a logo, I think that it makes sense to wait
>> for a really spectacular submission, even if it doesn't happen
>> immediately.
>> Thirdly, I think that you would get a much broader (and potentially
>> better) set of submissions if this was announced in forums that are
>> oriented towards graphic design. Just like I wouldn't ask the
>> population of a woodworking convention to design lingerie, I don't
>> think it is a good idea to ask a mailing list consisting almost
>> exclusively of programmers to create artwork.
> +1 on all of the above.

Since you are a committer and have a binding vote, could you clarify
what you mean by this? Is it a veto or are you just expressing your

Knut Anders

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