Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 66220 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2005 23:33:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 2005 23:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 1608 invoked by uid 500); 28 Nov 2005 23:33:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 1573 invoked by uid 500); 28 Nov 2005 23:33:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 1564 invoked by uid 99); 28 Nov 2005 23:33:32 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:33:32 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.182.142] (HELO e2.ny.us.ibm.com) (32.97.182.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:35:02 -0800 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by e2.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jASNXAA7014155 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:33:10 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.8) with ESMTP id jASNXAim121180 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:33:10 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jASNX9nS011516 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:33:09 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sig-9-48-124-202.mts.ibm.com [9.48.124.202]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jASNX2bW011191 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: <438B93AF.6030409@debrunners.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:33:03 -0800 From: Daniel John Debrunner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: derby-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: DRDA product identifier References: <438B476D.2020002@sun.com> <438B5177.4070205@sbcglobal.net> <438B7C1F.8010701@sun.com> <438B848E.3070003@sun.com> <7921d3e40511281518j6214dd8cr15fd1d3f93e11b38@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7921d3e40511281518j6214dd8cr15fd1d3f93e11b38@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Francois Orsini wrote: > I don't think it's OK to share a product ID between IBM Cloudscape and > Derby. > > The rational is that IBM Cloudscape is different than Derby - NOT at the > core engine level but at the end the products are labelled differently > and there is no guarantee that IBM Cloudscape will keep the core engine > as the same (strictly identical) as Derby's one in the long run - so > sharing the product ID is not appropriate IMO; even if it looks ok on > principles... Even if the DRDA identifier is changed to DRB, IBM Cloudscape would use DRB as IBM Cloudscape is a re-packaging of Derby. If IBM wanted to have their own DRDA identifier in the future, that of course would be their decision and they would have to make any changes to make that happen. The fact is that Derby is using CSS today, and changing that would break existing applications. IBM is perfectly happy to have Derby continue to use CSS for Derby and to change the "ownership" at the DRDA site to be ASF Derby. Sticking with CSS seems the easiest safest decision, changing it seems to be changing it for the sake of change. I can't see what value it would add to Derby, but lack of backwards compatibility is a big problem. Maybe Rick could explain how it is good for Derby, changing the identifier? Dan. disclaimer - I work for IBM.