Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 30541 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2005 14:16:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Oct 2005 14:16:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 75627 invoked by uid 500); 27 Oct 2005 14:15:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 75594 invoked by uid 500); 27 Oct 2005 14:15:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 75585 invoked by uid 99); 27 Oct 2005 14:15:58 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:15:58 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.98.36] (HELO brmea-mail-4.sun.com) (192.18.98.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:15:54 -0700 Received: from phys-d3-ha21sca-2 ([129.145.155.165]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9REFZD7006956 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:15:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com by ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IP000J01VJREH@ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> (original mail from Richard.Hillegas@Sun.COM) for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.24.105] (vpn-129-150-24-105.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.150.24.105]) by ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IP000E6KVMLG4@ha21sca-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for derby-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:15:39 -0700 From: Rick Hillegas Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-516) Need to incorporate client backward/forward compatibility testing into testing procedures. In-reply-to: <531706245.1130369335452.JavaMail.jira@ajax.apache.org> To: "Myrna van Lunteren (JIRA)" Message-id: <4360E10B.6040805@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) References: <531706245.1130369335452.JavaMail.jira@ajax.apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi Myrna, Thanks for your comments. I'll roll your suggestions into the next rev of this test, after the current patch is committed. Responses follow. Cheers-Rick Myrna van Lunteren (JIRA) wrote: > [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-516?page=comments#action_12356026 ] > >Myrna van Lunteren commented on DERBY-516: >------------------------------------------ > >I would suggest a little helpful addition in java/testing/README.html with a link to the current junit hosting site. >(like how the reference to jakarta-oro* is done) > > OK. >I would suggest also Building.txt to have specify that junit.jar is needed to build and run, so instead of what you have currently: >"JUnit is needed for some of Derby's tests" I suggest: >"JUnit is needed to build and run some of Derby's tests" > > OK. >I have tested derbynetmats, and tested jdbcapi/CompatibilityTest.java separately with -Dframework=DerbyNet and =DerbyNetClient and that seems to work fine. And I was using jdk142. > > Thanks. >Can you explain the need for jdk15 (according to the projecthelp)? Maybe I missed this... > > 1.5 is just one of Derby's supported platforms. Since some Derby jdbc behavior is vm-specific, I want to make sure we cover the 1.5 vm along with 1.3 and 1.4. >Finally some meanderings: >I have been wondering about the name of the test - CompatibilityTest just seemed a little generic, but I have no better alternative. :-) >Also wondered whether we should add something about junit.jar to the web page http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Software+required+to+build+Derby >but as it's only required to for the ant all target, not the default target, I can accept the current structure too. :-) >Finally I also wondered if maybe these tests ought to be not under org/apache/derbyTesting/functionTests/tests/compatibility, but under org/apache/derbyTesting/JUnitTests/compatibility... > > I don't have strong religion about these points either. Concerning the last issue: I agree that a JUnitTests fork in the tree might help us track which of our existing tests we've migrated under JUnit. >Myrna > > >