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From "Jean T. Anderson" <...@bristowhill.com>
Subject Re: [website] (was "Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-310) Document and/or change Derby client code to match behavior with Embedded driver where possible.")
Date Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:08:53 GMT
A quick update that I've been remiss in sending (had trouble finding 
this thread).

The DITA team wants to release the Toolkit under the Apache license. As 
soon as it's available under the ASL, I'll pull in the files that the 
Derby docs need.

  -jean

Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> I've discussed this issue with one of the Derby mentors who recommends 
> that we ask the author of commonltr.css to license that particular file 
> to the ASF under the Apache License.
> 
> All that is needed is for the author to post a note to that effect to 
> derby-dev.
> 
> I'll work with Jeff on this.
> 
>  -jean
> 
> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> 
>> I wasn't reading Jeff's email closely (my apologies).
>>
>> We aren't talking about any xsl stylesheets that DITA uses for the 
>> transformation that produce the output files.
>>
>> We're talking about the cascading stylesheets used for display. They 
>> don't need to be checked into svn, they just need to be accessible by 
>> the html files that comprise the manuals. Jeff proposes putting the 
>> stylesheet in each manual's output directory. Physical details: on 
>> minotaur, this means copying the stylesheet into each 
>> /www/incubator.apache.org/derby/docs/{adminguide, devguide, getstart, 
>> ref, tools, tuning} subdirectory.
>>
>> There's probably a precedent for this at Apache that would confirm if 
>> this is alright or not. Does anyone know for sure?
>>
>>  -jean
>>
>>
>> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> A quick summary (Jeff, correct me if I mangled any meaning) is:
>>>
>>>   - A DITA style sheet produces a pleasing format for Dreby manuals
>>>   - Jeff's tweak of that style sheet improves the format even more
>>>
>>> The DITA toolkit is under the CPL license, and modifications to any 
>>> of these files create derivative works under CPL. I asked 
>>> legal-discuss back in March about checking files under a CPL license 
>>> into the apache SVN repository, and the answer that came back was a 
>>> strong "No"; I sent the status to derby-dev, see:
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200503.mbox/%3c422A393D.40306@bristowhill.com%3e

>>>
>>>
>>> So, these files cannot be checked into svn.
>>>
>>> However, anyone who builds the docs is free to use that style sheet. 
>>> One option might be to make the style sheet available for download 
>>> from a public site outside apache. --This was an approach Ross 
>>> Gardler originally proposed for a DITA plugin for forrest when he 
>>> offerred to host it at Burrokeet, see:
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200503.mbox/%3c424C7886.3030100@apache.org%3e

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyhow, let's think about the "right apache way" for us to achieve 
>>> what we need -- and Derby mentors on this list should feel REALLY 
>>> free to chime in with your sage advice and experience.
>>>
>>>  -jean

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