Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 21864 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2004 17:15:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 2004 17:15:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 30664 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2004 17:15:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 30640 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2004 17:15:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Development" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 30627 invoked by uid 99); 6 Dec 2004 17:15:24 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mail2.wiu.edu (HELO mail.wiu.edu) (143.43.222.219) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:15:23 -0800 Received: from scanner0.wiu.edu (scanner0 [143.43.222.140]) by mail.wiu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA12011 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:15:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from srv1.wiu.edu ([143.43.222.31]) by scanner0.wiu.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2004120611150706565 for ; Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:15:07 -0600 Received: from [143.43.202.21] (scott.mprojects.WIU.edu [143.43.202.21]) by srv1.wiu.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iB6HEqtZ007673 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:14:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41B4937F.9050500@wiu.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:14:39 -0600 From: scott hutinger User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derby Development Subject: Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N sissonj@insession.com wrote: >scott hutinger wrote on 06/12/2004 05:21:24 PM: > > > >>sissonj@insession.com wrote: >> >> >> >>>scott hutinger wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I haven't followed that entire thread, nor can I find that thread >>>>currently. But, a log plugin; which I think? followes which files >>>> >>>> >have > > >>>>changed, has been developed using java.util.logging. I think it >>>> >>>> >allows > > >>>>forrest to know which files have changed but I think it runs on a >>>>dynamic site, and I am uncertain if the loging plugin is hooked into >>>>forrest for this yet. >>>> >>>>I will keep my eyes on that and research it a bit. >>>> >>>>Also, I am uncertain about the release date of 0.7. I think Jean has >>>>the docs up to spec for 0.6, which I think is needed for 0.7. Cocoon >>>>had a problem creating some graphic files which would create errors in >>>> >>>> > > > >>>>site logs, that was fixed in cocoon, but I don't know if forrest >>>> >>>> >updated > > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>cocoon with 6.0 after the release. I can look into that on monday. >>>> >>>>scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Refer to the links in the comments of the following JIRA issue: >>> >>>http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-79 >>> >>>It would be nice if the JIRA issue is used to record progress on the >>>documentation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Thanks for pointing this out. What did you have in mind for the search >>on a pc? I was wondering if you were thinking of something like the >>adobe extensible metadata platform, or something like that? I really >>haven't looked at pdf search techniques. I guess someone could attach >>derby to pdf files somehow :-) >> >>scott >> >> >> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >Hi Scott, > >I haven't spent any time with cocoon, FOP etc, but I have seen other >commercial software products provide a PDF document for each of their >manuals and a searchable index that covers all the manuals. > >I'm not sure if any of the open source PDF file generation solutions >provide something like: >http://www.adobe.co.uk/epaper/tips/acr5search/main.html > >I wasn't trying to suggest that Derby be somehow used to search PDF >documentation (not sure if that is what you thought I said).. > >I would like the ability to search within acrobat reader across the >different derby manuals and also have the ability to have links from one >manual to the other (as I found I had to refer to more than one manual to >perform some Derby tasks). > > > OK, I understand. I guess I didn't read the issue correctly all the way. >The following page describes the search functionality and it also >mentioned PDF metadata (that you mentioned), so it sounds like you might >have given yourself away as the PDF expert :-) > > > Actually, I don't know anything about PDF. I did notice that FOP supports PDF version 1.3. So I don't think embedded XML within the PDF file would work. It does have Document Level Navigation, Destinations, Bookmarks etc. I did notice in FOP if memory problems start to exist, turn off forward references. But the point I guess is, do any other new document formats exist that might be better than PDF? I know we will still output to PDF, but thought some other cool document display architecture might exist. I don't know, as I am clueless about such things. I can look a bit though. Anyone know of some other display architecture? I'll look more into FOP to see what all it supports. thanks, scott >http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6521 > >Cheers, > >John > > >