Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cxf-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cxf-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC66EDAEA for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97893 invoked by uid 500); 31 Aug 2012 00:44:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cxf-dev-archive@cxf.apache.org Received: (qmail 97842 invoked by uid 500); 31 Aug 2012 00:44:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cxf.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cxf.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cxf.apache.org Received: (qmail 97827 invoked by uid 99); 31 Aug 2012 00:44:37 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:44:37 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,URI_HEX X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of willem.jiang@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.41] (HELO mail-pb0-f41.google.com) (209.85.160.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:44:31 +0000 Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so4263229pbb.0 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=xQpt1mKxuCiuDFrKkhmMkscIjgNIPFXGTwAuSOI5Oaw=; b=BEe0SXKF6jyGPomuocNcL9rJnLa8qnmuJCGeMy6zYkfG9nlCkjWhm0HnVrTRPDl1Vf +v08TSIl7TRsiOPodFW6q3/N407liuoSnZErKHcNF7R/EL/JcSfVP/xdV9HvKATpvJJd xZPLjswOuVUGq8tS0ueI/xkRv1gYDsXsi5PytCT6JJWYc3yeIYCRRkw5u8klujv18Y6Y xaJMszyMw/TZXrtuYIKaJVdwMCTy3L7nXcS3KoYmIuMWZ6j9TaMkOPyzUvBtu9kzsWbQ m2SacNLJX2Cddu/h31VX3Fo11r8xryC9ufXQOlUihLV1wcWLDSEuyaIrPhgvbSAphdBy kr/A== Received: by 10.68.138.166 with SMTP id qr6mr14295906pbb.69.1346373849423; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([111.85.232.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uu6sm2432012pbc.70.2012.08.30.17.44.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:43:56 +0800 From: Willem jiang To: dev@cxf.apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1346358676848-5713384.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1346358676848-5713384.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename "Simple Frontend" --> "No-Annotation Frontend"? X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.3 (build 1164) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I don't think it is a good idea to just rename it in the wiki page as we still to provide a reference link for the people who want to search for the Simple Frontend. I don't think current CXF kit doesn't provide this kind of document. People has to us the wiki for looking up the document, we should not prevent user to search "Simple Frontend". So I'm -1 for this proposal. I think we could explain about the "Simple Frontend" in the 5 min tutorial, and add a entry in FAQ to tell people it is not Simple when you use the "Simple Frontend". I think it could be easy for us to rename the "Simple Frontend" in CXF 3.0 if we really want to do it. As we could create CXFDOC3 for people to use. My 2 cents. -- Willem Jiang FuseSource Web: http://www.fusesource.com (http://www.fusesource.com/) Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (http://willemjiang.blogspot.com/) (English) http://jnn.javaeye.com (http://jnn.javaeye.com/) (Chinese) Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: willemjiang On Friday, August 31, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Glen Mazza wrote: > Team, I'd like to rename our Simple Front End > (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CXF20DOC/Simple+Frontend) in > our Confluence docs. > > The problem with naming it "simple" is that it (1) falsely implies to > newcomers that JAX-WS is difficult and something nasty to be avoided, and > (2) its "simple" name encourages newcomers to use it. Further, what might > be simple for the first twenty minutes of development may not actually be > simple for the next six months of maintainance, and on that basis a fair > argument could be made that the JAX-WS frontend is really the "simple" one. > > Accordingly, I'd like to rename it the "No-Annotation Frontend" (I'm open to > other ideas), because that's precisely what it is while being neutral about > the other front end options (i.e., it's not good to have a frontend called > "the intelligent frontend" or "the well-designed frontend" as it just makes > the others look bad that way), and it also does not unduly encourage people > to use it over the default JAX-WS front end. > > This will just be a Confluence search and replace (only a few pages). I'll > keep the "simple"-named Schema as well as the -simple wsdl2java tooling > option (just explaining it's for the no-Annotation front end in the > docs)--while I *could* change those it would raise backward compatibility > headaches for what is increasingly a seldom-used front end, so I don't think > its worth the effort. > > WDYT? > > Glen > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Rename-Simple-Frontend-No-Annotation-Frontend-tp5713384.html > Sent from the cxf-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com (http://Nabble.com).