Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cxf-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cxf-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C4778E2 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14236 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2011 13:12:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cxf-dev-archive@cxf.apache.org Received: (qmail 14184 invoked by uid 500); 22 Sep 2011 13:12:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cxf.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cxf.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cxf.apache.org Received: (qmail 14175 invoked by uid 99); 22 Sep 2011 13:12:42 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:12:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL,URI_HEX X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of freeman.fang@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.169] (HELO mail-gx0-f169.google.com) (209.85.161.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:12:35 +0000 Received: by gxk2 with SMTP id 2so2296181gxk.0 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; bh=ER41LVgT5zulabmkv20Sy/0giy5/+lvKoe/OJ3Qwxyw=; b=RYH1JCNCBkPe3A3p5lQIIWU4nt4PelDHeTd/B9IM8kD0XofnOQk0o1yZdDE11SKuY+ 5E0f5/0higDAJo3DBw/hWiJ9tQZKD5w19X6Q9ebfKMSWZrcaZ4dqflp4piHvkjFlV8Lw dgkoRb4wsrwpajAEnrU/OqMsHIykRqPEzMe/0= Received: by 10.68.8.71 with SMTP id p7mr3938042pba.110.1316697134028; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([123.119.232.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ji3sm27865957pbc.2.2011.09.22.06.12.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 06:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5D17ECAE-6C01-41D5-B00F-B4C38B15C1FF@gmail.com> From: Freeman Fang To: dev@cxf.apache.org In-Reply-To: <1316694690798-4829980.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--912492167 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Remove the CXF MTOSI examples? Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:12:04 +0800 References: <1316622382805-4826982.post@n5.nabble.com> <1316626135195-4827176.post@n5.nabble.com> <33978D3A-6517-4AAF-9EC9-92F4B7FD8136@gmail.com> <1316694690798-4829980.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-3--912492167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Glen, That's not my company concern, just my personal point of view :-) Okay, ensure we still have those MTOSI example in SVN should be enough. Freeman On 2011-9-22, at =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=888:31, Glen Mazza wrote: > No, if we're keeping it in the source distribution we should keep it =20= > in both. > This example is either Good or Not Good, and, on that basis, it =20 > should be > either included with both or excluded with both. (I understand your =20= > company > has a customer requirement to Mavenize all unmavenized binary =20 > distribution > samples that would be solved by having MTOSI only in the source > distribution, but I have a larger concern of removing unused examples, > period--one that would also take care of your concern :) Of course, =20= > it > would always be available in the SVN archives for anybody still =20 > interested > in it. > > In my view, again, none of us here have sufficient knowledge about =20 > MTOSI to > be able to authoritatively document it, so it is irresponsible for =20 > us to > keep an example showing how to use it--authoritative documentation =20 > can be > the role only of the MTOSI team. ("Professionally maintaining a MTOSI > sample in our distribution" is probably an oxymoron.) Indeed, for =20 > any third > party web service X, how to use X can only be defined on X.com. Any > third-party web service (or in this case, standard) too inactive or > uninterested to document how their own stuff works, that's a warning =20= > signal > that we should be steering clear of it rather than trying to =20 > document it for > them and include examples for it. > > Glen > > > > Freeman-2 wrote: >> >> +1 to exclude it from binary kit, just keep them in svn and src kit. >> >> Freeman >> On 2011-9-22, at =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=881:28, Glen Mazza wrote: >> >>> Nuking appears appropriate. If MTOSI's WSDL's are well designed, no >>> special >>> example for it would be needed (either our already existing Java- >>> first or >>> WSDL-first samples would suffice.) If they're not and need special >>> tweaks, >>> it's the responsibility of the MTOSI team (assuming such a team >>> exists) to >>> document on their own website how to get their non-standard WSDLs to >>> work >>> with JAX-WS implementations, not vice-versa. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> = http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/Remove-the-CXF-MTOSI-examples-tp4826982p48= 27176.html >>> Sent from the cxf-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> Freeman Fang >> >> FuseSource >> Email:ffang@fusesource.com >> Web: fusesource.com >> Twitter: freemanfang >> Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.com >> > > > -- > View this message in context: = http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/Remove-the-CXF-MTOSI-examples-tp4826982p48= 29980.html > Sent from the cxf-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------- Freeman Fang FuseSource Email:ffang@fusesource.com Web: fusesource.com Twitter: freemanfang Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.com --Apple-Mail-3--912492167--