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From Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Remove the CXF MTOSI examples?
Date Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:28:53 GMT
On Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:12:04 PM Freeman Fang wrote:
> Hi Glen,
> 
> That's not my company concern,  just my personal point of view :-)
> Okay, ensure we still have those MTOSI example in SVN should be enough.

They are still available in the SVN history and the tag of every CXF release 
we've made.   Thus, we can easily grab them again if there is interest.     
I'd rather keep trunk somewhat clean.

Dan


> 
> Freeman
> 
> On 2011-9-22, at 下午8:31, Glen Mazza wrote:
> > No, if we're keeping it in the source distribution we should keep it
> > in both.
> > This example is either Good or Not Good, and, on that basis, it
> > should be
> > either included with both or excluded with both.  (I understand your
> > company
> > has a customer requirement to Mavenize all unmavenized binary
> > distribution
> > samples that would be solved by having MTOSI only in the source
> > distribution, but I have a larger concern of removing unused examples,
> > period--one that would also take care of your concern :)  Of course,
> > it
> > would always be available in the SVN archives for anybody still
> > interested
> > in it.
> > 
> > In my view, again, none of us here have sufficient knowledge about
> > MTOSI to
> > be able to authoritatively document it, so it is irresponsible for
> > us to
> > keep an example showing how to use it--authoritative documentation
> > can be
> > the role only of the MTOSI team.  ("Professionally maintaining a MTOSI
> > sample in our distribution" is probably an oxymoron.)  Indeed, for
> > any third
> > party web service X, how to use X can only be defined on X.com.  Any
> > third-party web service (or in this case, standard) too inactive or
> > uninterested to document how their own stuff works, that's a warning
> > signal
> > that we should be steering clear of it rather than trying to
> > document it for
> > them and include examples for it.
> > 
> > Glen
> > 
> > Freeman-2 wrote:
> >> +1 to exclude it from binary kit, just keep them in svn and src kit.
> >> 
> >> Freeman
> >> 
> >> On 2011-9-22, at 上午1:28, Glen Mazza wrote:
> >>> Nuking appears appropriate.  If MTOSI's WSDL's are well designed, no
> >>> special
> >>> example for it would be needed (either our already existing Java-
> >>> first or
> >>> WSDL-first samples would suffice.)  If they're not and need special
> >>> tweaks,
> >>> it's the responsibility of the MTOSI team (assuming such a team
> >>> exists) to
> >>> document on their own website how to get their non-standard WSDLs to
> >>> work
> >>> with JAX-WS implementations, not vice-versa.
> >>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> Nabble.com.
> >> 
> >> ---------------------------------------------
> >> Freeman Fang
> >> 
> >> FuseSource
> >> Email:ffang@fusesource.com
> >> Web: fusesource.com
> >> Twitter: freemanfang
> >> Blog: http://freemanfang.blogspot.com
> > 
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> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> Freeman Fang
> 
> FuseSource
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