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From Daniel Kulp <>
Subject Re: 2.4 later this month.....
Date Wed, 02 Mar 2011 04:06:11 GMT
On Tuesday 01 March 2011 1:07:13 PM Benson Margulies wrote:
> How much further could we take the reduction of Spring/XML usage in
> initialization?

How far do you want to go?   :-)

Right now on trunk, if you don't specify a Spring config, it defaults to the 
ExtensionBus.   However, right now, the extensions are supplied via the META-
INF/cxf/bus-extensions.xml files.   They are much smaller and simpler XML 
files that the equivalent Spring files, but still XML.   We could easily 
replace them with a simple text file list of bean classes.   I think that if 
we do that, the "default" case would completely startup with 0 XML parsing.

Seriously, a simple file with a list of beans like:
(the interface is the interface to register it on the bus as and the boolean 
is true/false for lazy init)  I think would pretty much cover it.  The 
extensions currently have namespaces configured in, but with 2.3, I had 
started the process of moving those out of Spring and into the beans 
themselves.   If I finished that process, they wouldn't be needed. 

Now, we still have the issue of what to do about the cases where you DO have 
spring config.   Right now, if you specify any spring config, it uses the full 
Spring bus with all the spring stuff.   We COULD make the META-INF/cxf/cxf.xml 
really have a single bean (an subclass of the ExtensionBus)  and all the other 
META-INF/cxf/cxf-extension-BLAH.xml" files just be empty (for backwords 
compat) or removed.   The upside is no XML (or little XML) at startup.  
Downside is no real way to NOT include functionality.   But with almost 
everything now being lazy-init, I'm not sure if that really matters as much 


> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Kulp <> wrote:
> > I'm thinking of building 2.4 at some point later this month.
> > 
> > Basically, it will have been about 6 months since 2.3 was release which
> > is a pretty good amount of time.     In that time, we've integrated a
> > couple of the GSoC projects, we've introduced some new features in the
> > JAX-RS stuff, and we've integrated new  versions of XmlSchema, Neethi,
> > and WSS4J which provide a lot of new functionality.   On the security
> > front, the new SAML2 support in WSS4J and all the updates in CXF to
> > support that is huge.   Also, a lot of testing has gone into the
> > WS-Security/WS-Trust stuff, particularly with other STS providers, to
> > help enhance the interopability.
> > 
> > Right now, I see two "risks":
> > 1) WSS4J - we obviously need a release of WSS4J 1.6.   Colm has a good
> > handle on it with a "beta" out there for people to look at.  However,
> > I'm not sure if the Axis/Rampart people will get a chance to look at it.
> > 
> > 2) Neethi - we need a release of this as well.   Andreas has already
> > upgraded all of Axis2 to using the new Neethi snapshots.    I've gotten
> > a lot of feedback from them already, bugs encountered, fixed, etc....
> > 
> > Thoughts or additional comments?
> > 
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> >
> >
> > Talend -

Daniel Kulp
Talend -

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