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From Daniel Kulp <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Are we ready to graduate?
Date Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:03:09 GMT

This discussion has pretty much stopped without any objections.  Thus, 
I'm going to call an official vote.   


On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> We've started some discussions on the cxf-private list about
> graduation stuff, but I wanted to bring it out to the wider list.
> OK, question #1: are we ready to graduate?   Other than a few
> administravia  things like updating the status page with the results
> of the karma cleanup (which I'll do once I remember how to update that
> page...  It's been a while.), are there any other issues that people
> feel would need to be resolved?
> Question #2: assuming #1 is yes, should we graduate to a top level
> project or to a subproject of something else.   If subproject, where?
> My thoughts:
> On #1:  yes.   We have now have a diverse community of contributors.  
> We have shown we can do releases based on apache guidelines.  (we've
> done 6 of them).   We have shown we conduct our discussions in public
> within full view of the community.   We have followed Apache
> guidelines and voting proceedures wherever required.    I don't feel
> there is anything left to gain by remaining in the incubator.
> On #2:  I'm strongly in favor of going TLP.   While some may argue
> that a subproject of ws may be preferred, I'm not one of them.  :-)  
> I personally think the WS project should actually be broken up a bit,
> so making the situation worse doesn't accomplish anything.    
> However, that is mostly my subjective opinion.
> Anyone else have any thoughts?

J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer, IONA

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