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From Frank Lynch <fr...@iona.com>
Subject RE: Apache CXF resolution feedback....
Date Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:53 GMT

On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 12:03 -0400, Christopher Moesel wrote:
> <unlurk>
> 
> ... but REST *is* SOA, isn't it?  SOA doesn't complement REST-- it
> *encompasses* REST.  My (non-binding) vote is to include the "SOA" but
> not call out "REST".  
> 
> </unlurk>

+1 that was my point, thank you for clarifying :-)

Its unfortunate that the battles between the WS-* & REST folks over the
years were billed as REST vs SOA. 
The emerging consensus is that a good service-oriented-architecture
contains a healthy dollop of restful services. Thankfully SOA isn't
synonymous with, or exclusively bound to WS-* anymore :)
--Frank

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trenaman, Adrian [mailto:Adrian.Trenaman@iona.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:48 AM
> To: cxf-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: general
> Subject: RE: Apache CXF resolution feedback....
> 
> Agreed! SOA and REST can complement each other very nicely thank you
> very much. However, I think that it's important to bring the REST stuff
> out; let's not restrict CXF to be just about SOA. 
> 
> /Ade
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Lynch [mailto:frank@iona.com] 
> Sent: 13 March 2008 15:30
> To: cxf-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: general
> Subject: RE: Apache CXF resolution feedback....
> 
> *tip-toeing around potential flames* ... I wouldn't specifically call
> out SOA & REST design principals. 
> Personally, I consider REST to be a perfectly acceptable (desirable,
> perhaps even ideal) design principal that one should use within an SOA.
> Therefore, I don't really see the need to explicitly call out REST in
> this clause.
> cheers,
> --Frank
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 05:41 -0400, Trenaman, Adrian wrote:
> > Would you also add REST to that description, given our support for 
> > JAX-RS?
> > 
> > "framework for creating, deploying, and consuming services based on 
> > SOA and REST design principles"
> > 
> > Ade. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM [mailto:Craig.Russell@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: 13 March 2008 02:50
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: cxf-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Apache CXF resolution feedback....
> > 
> > Seems to capture the spirit of the project.
> > 
> > I'd insert "and " just before "consuming".
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > On Mar 12, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wednesday 12 March 2008, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > >> Something along these lines? So folks reading it would get some 
> > >> idea what they can do with CXF?
> > >>
> > >> "framework for creating, deploying, consuming services based on SOA
> 
> > >> design principles"
> > >
> > > That seems completely reasonable to me.   I like it.
> > >
> > > Anyone else have any comments?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> -- dims
> > >>
> > >> Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > >> | On Monday 10 March 2008, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > >> |> "a service consumption and enablement framework for
> > >> distribution" -
> > >> |> sounds a bit vague. no?
> > >> |
> > >> | We had discussion about that on the PPMC and couldn't find
> > >> something
> > >> | more "specific" that we were happy with.  Any suggestions?
> > >> |
> > >> | We didn't really want to add specific specs such as JAX-WS since 
> > >> | we
> > 
> > >> | also have other things in the works such as JAX-RS/JSR311 support
> > >> | along with things like the simple frontend and Aegis and such.
> We
> > >> | also didn't want to say "web services" since we have the IIOP 
> > >> | support in place now.
> > >> |
> > >> | Dan
> > >> |
> > >> |> -- dims
> > >> |>
> > >> |> Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > >> |> | The Apache CXF community recently voted to graduate as a TLP 
> > >> |> | and
> > 
> > >> |> | have started working on the resolution.  We'd appreciate any 
> > >> |> | feedback.
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> | Thanks!
> > >> |> | Dan
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> | ======================================
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |  Establish the Apache CXF project
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the
> best
> > >> |> |      interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > >> |> |      Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known
> as
> > >> |> |      "Apache CXF Project", related to a service consumption
> and
> > >> |> |      enablement framework for distribution at no charge to the
> > >> |> |      public.
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > >> |> |      Committee (PMC) is hereby established pursuant to Bylaws
> > >> |> |      of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      RESOLVED, that the Apache CXF PMC be and hereby is
> > >> |> |      charged with the creation and maintenance of "Apache
> CXF";
> > >> |> |      and be it further
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache CXF"
> 
> > >> be
> > >> |> | and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
> > >> at
> > >> |> | the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the 
> > >> |> | Apache CXF PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
> > >> management
> > >> |> | of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the 
> > >> |> | Apache
> > 
> > >> |> | CXF PMC; and be it further
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be
> and
> > >> |> |      hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of
> the
> > >> |> |      Apache CXF PMC:
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |       * Ulhas Bhole <ulhasbhole@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Sean O'Callaghan <seanoc@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Dan Diephouse <ddiephouse@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Freeman Yue Fang <ffang@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Jarek Gawor <gawor@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Jeff Genender <jgenender@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Eoghan Glynn <eglynn@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Jim Jagielski <jim@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Willem Ning Jiang <ningjiang@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Eric Johnson <ericjohnson@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Peter Jones <peterjones@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Bozhong Lin <blin@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Jervis Liu <jliu@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Jim Ma <ema@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * James Maode Mao <mmao@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Benson Margulies <bimargulies@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Glen Mazza <gmazza@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@apache.org>
> > >> |> |       * Ajay Paibir <ajapaibir@apache.org>
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Daniel Kulp
> > >> |> |      be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache CXF,
> > >> to
> > >> |> | serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the 
> > >> |> | Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until 
> > >> |> | death,
> > 
> > >> |> | resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> 
> > >> |> | a
> > 
> > >> |> | successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      RESOLVED, that the Apache CXF Project be and hereby
> > >> |> |      is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the 
> > >> |> | Apache Incubator CXF podling; and be it further
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |      RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the
> > >> Apache
> > >> |> |      Incubator CXF podling encumbered upon the Apache
> Incubator
> > >> |> |      PMC are hereafter discharged.
> > >> |> |
> > >> |> |  ==========================================
> > >> |>
> > >> |>  
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > J. Daniel Kulp
> > > Principal Engineer, IONA
> > > dkulp@apache.org
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