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From Daniel Kulp <>
Subject Re: Graduating.....
Date Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:49:01 GMT


I really appreciate the candid response.   Thanks for that.

So, the question becomes: what can we do to help others get more involved 
in the CXF code?   That question is open to the non-commiters as well.   
What can we do to help you?

I was sitting around trying to brainstorm with some folks this afternoon 
and thought of one idea (I'll give Debbie credit for this):  is there a 
way to mark tasks in Jira with an difficulty level?    If we could mark 
some tasks as "Easy" as opposed to "Yea Right", that could make it much 
easier for a new person to find something to get their feet wet.  Jim: 
since you're probably the only one with Jira admin access, is that 
something that can be done?  Add a "Difficulty" or "Complexity" 
attribute with levels like "Unknown, Trivial, Easy, Medium, Difficult, 
Yea Right"?   (I know VERY little about what Jira can do.)   If we 
decide this is a good idea, is this something we need to file through 

Anyway, to all the non-commiters: I highly encourage you to reach out to 
the developers, ask questions, dig into the code, etc...  If you want 
some pointers or need help finding where the code that does something 
is, please ask.   


On Tuesday 07 August 2007 17:00, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > The main concern, of course, is diversity.   There are a bunch of
> > IONA folks, however, we do meet the criteria of 3 or more
> > independent commiters with IBM represented, obviously Envoi
> > Solutions,  a couple of
> > independents.   We also have a couple folks that have been
> > submitting patches and are getting "close".       That all said,
> > despite having a lot of IONA folks, I think we've done a good job
> > keeping the development
> > open and in the community.   That's the more important thing.
> Keeping the development open and in community is all good.
> But, imo, as mentor, the diversity simply is not there
> yet. My general feeling is that if IONA were to drop
> its interest in CXF, many people currently involved
> in CXF would go away.
> I see progress being made in increasing diversity,
> but CXF is not there yet.

J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer
P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194

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