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From "Cronin, Margo" <>
Subject RE: Project name...
Date Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:42:21 GMT
OK, for something completely different - how about something with an irish touch:

Ceol (pronounced Key-ool) an irish word for music, Apache Ceol sounds pretty good. 


Ceili (you all know what that is) Apacha Ceili


Damhsa (pronounced daw-sa meaning to dance)
Rince (to dance), 
Craic (meaning fun though Apache Craic doesn't seem to give a positive connotation so forget
Bodhran (pronounced bow-ran the irish drum)

Uisce (water)
Cnoc (mountain)
Carraig/creig (rock)
Aonach (fair/market)
Sioga (pronounced she-ooo-ga meaning the fairies - lots of irish folklore about fairies!)

Tine (pronounce tin-ne, meaning fire)
Solas (light)  Apache Solas sounds pretty good.

Apache Solas or Apache Ceol would be my favourites.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mika Göckel [] 
Sent: 10 August 2006 00:40
Subject: Re: Project name...

Guys, be serious.

I reread my famous Matt Raibles tips_for_productivity_and_happiness
and my dead serious proposal is:


It sounds like "service" but it is the spanish word for beer. But the word has got *5.940.000
*Google hits (You know... beer... 
If there are any doubts about colliding names, we can write it

cerweza   (1020 Google hits)
cerfeza (19 GH)
cerfeca (2 GH)
xerveza (17 GH)

and we could still argue cxf is the abbreviation for it :-)


David Blevins schrieb:
> On Aug 8, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Hani Suleiman wrote:
>> How about foam? lightweight soap!
> That's cute.  We could be ultra trendy, combine the coolest "any 
> purpose" name-fillers and call it XActiveFishFire.   Wait, we need 
> something in there for Celtix, so that'd be XActiveFishFireTix.
> -David
>> Maybe bung in an x in front of it for googlability.
>> On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>> At this point, I'd prefer something completely different from either 
>>> Celtix or
>>> Xfire.   Any ideas?
>>> I've been kind of flipping through the apache speaking dictionary  at:
>>> ict.html
>>> figuring names in another language that barely anyone speaks should 
>>> have very
>>> little trademark issues.    Unfortunately, I don't really like any 
>>> of them.
>>> I guess I don't have enough Indian in me.  :-)    (more like: none)
>>> Maybe:
>>> jaage   -  apache for antelope
>>> google just shows up some song title with it.
>>> I thought about Calumet (native american peace pipe) to be a 
>>> "bringing people together" type thing, but apparently there is a 
>>> Calumet region in Wisconsin and another in Michigan, and, after the 
>>> Glasgow fiasco, I'm reluctant to
>>> suggest anything that remotely resembles a location.   There is also a
>>> I don't know.  I'm not creative enough to come up with a good 
>>> name.   Maybe
>>> just leave the whole project name as "CXF" and say "It doesn't stand 
>>> for
>>> anything, that's the name".   That's the least work for Jason.  :-)
>>> Dan
>>> On Tuesday August 08 2006 10:20 am, Dan Diephouse wrote:
>>>> I am open to a new name. I did ask around for suggestions 
>>>> initially, but I don't recall people suggesting anything really 
>>>> good. Do people have suggestions? There is a pretty diverse set of 
>>>> people around here, I would imagine *someone* has some brilliant 
>>>> ideas :-)
>>>> - Dan
>>>> Hani Suleiman wrote:
>>>>> Please, for the love of god, change it.
>>>>> Even plain old cxfire is better. The name as it stands is awful. 
>>>>> It'd be nice if we could have a name that'd actually match the 
>>>>> package name too.
>>>>> cfire? celfire? cexfire (teehee)?
>>>>> On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:12 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>>>> When we made the CeltiXfire proposal, I know there was a lot of 
>>>>>> feedback
>>>>>> regarding the name.   Some liked it, some hated it, there were
>>>>>> concerns of
>>>>>> trademarks, etc...
>>>>>> I know everyone basically said the name issues could be resolved

>>>>>> during
>>>>>> incubating, but it would be nice to resolve it sooner.   We're  
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to have
>>>>>> to do a major package rename (org.objectweb/org.codehaus ->
>>>>>> org.apache) and
>>>>>> it would be nice to settle on the next at the same time to 
>>>>>> minimize  the disruption.
>>>>>> So, the question is:  do we have to change the name or is 
>>>>>> celtixfire acceptable? (with the proposed package name being
>>>>>> org.apache.cxf)    Can
>>>>>> someone make heads/tails of all the recent naming discussions on

>>>>>> the general incubating list and figure out if we do or do not 
>>>>>> need to change it?
>>>>>> Trying to follow all those discussions is making my head spin.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> J. Daniel Kulp
>>>>>> Principal Engineer
>>>>>> IONA
>>>>>> P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194   F:781-902-8001
>>> --J. Daniel Kulp
>>> Principal Engineer
>>> IONA
>>> P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194   F:781-902-8001

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