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From "Sakala, Adinarayana" <ASAK...@iona.com>
Subject RE: Summary of IRC discussions today....
Date Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:40:46 GMT
> 1) Jason will create an issues mail list for Jira issues
I would like to see all the jira issue mails going to commit mailing list.
I dont see a need for another mailing list.

> 2) Jason will create a notifications list for build related 
> notifications 
> (cruisecontrol, etc...)
Again i think build notifications should go to cxf-commits mailing list.

I my opinion we should be fine with one mailing list for this type of commit related stuff.

> 5) I'll get Adi to investigate if we can get a dump of the 
> ObjectWeb tracker 
> and have Jason import it
You guys gave me an action item ;). Ok i will look into it and see what can be done here.

-Adi


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kulp, John Daniel 
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:09 PM
> To: cxf-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Summary of IRC discussions today....
> 
> 
> 
> We had a couple discussions (all infrastructure related, not 
> code related) on 
> IRC today (#cxf @ irc.codehaus.org) today.   Since the 
> channel isn't yet 
> logged, (Jason, I think that's an action item for you :-)  
> I've included a 
> log here so everyone can see. 
> 
> Basically, action items:
> 1) Jason will create an issues mail list for Jira issues
> 2) Jason will create a notifications list for build related 
> notifications 
> (cruisecontrol, etc...)
> 3) I'll double check to make sure all the IONA folks can get 
> to the codehaus 
> IRC server.  (I think we're OK, but all the dublin folks are 
> on holiday 
> today)
> 4) Jason will create the JIRA project and send me some 
> scripts to help dump 
> IONA's internal JIRA issues.
> 5) I'll get Adi to investigate if we can get a dump of the 
> ObjectWeb tracker 
> and have Jason import it
> 6) The maven deployment repository discussion is still 
> ongoing on the general 
> incubator list.
> 7) I sent a note asking about whether the project name needs 
> to change.
> 
> 
> -- 
> J. Daniel Kulp
> Principal Engineer
> IONA
> P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194   F:781-902-8001
> daniel.kulp@iona.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [10:21:37]  You have joined channel #cxf
> [10:26:11] <dkulp> Jason?
> [10:31:10] <gnodet> dkulp, try jvanzyl, as usually people 
> will be pinged if 
> you type their irc id
> [10:32:26] <dkulp> I'm mostly curious as to why the channel 
> was created hear 
> instead of on freenode.   (having it here might be a problem 
> for the IONA 
> folks, I'm investigating that)
> [10:32:35]  hear/here: unknown command
> [10:34:03] <gnodet> i guess we could go on freenode if there 
> is any problem
> [10:34:22] <jvanzyl> howdy
> [10:34:39] <jvanzyl> i just always set things up here
> [10:34:44] <jvanzyl> doesn't matter
> [10:34:57] <jvanzyl> it can be moved anywhere
> [10:35:08] <jvanzyl> i use codehaus for everything
> [10:35:11] <dkulp> Let me investigate to see if our IS folks are more 
> ammendable to opening up another outgoing port.
> [10:35:37] <dkulp> I was also kind of wondering why #tuscany 
> is on freenode, 
> but other apache things are here.   :-)
> [10:35:38] <tsztelak> dkulp: they can use access over htpp
> [10:35:47] <tsztelak> *http
> [10:35:53] <jvanzyl> or tunnel
> [10:36:05] <tsztelak> i have all ports blocked except 80
> [10:36:43] <tsztelak> so i prefer using codehaus irc ;)
> [10:37:15] <tsztelak> dkulp: http://irc.codehaus.org
> [10:37:27] <dkulp> Can you use a normal IRC client with that?
> [10:37:51] <tsztelak> Don't think so
> [10:46:53] <dkulp> jvanzyl:  two more questions....
> [10:47:35] <dkulp> 1) I know there was a "maven repository 
> for incubating 
> projects" thread on the list.   Was there a resolution to 
> that?   (aka: 
> where/how will we publish both snapshots and milestone releases?)
> [10:48:19]  tsztelak is now known as tomeks
> [10:48:28] <dkulp> 2) Can we get a cxf-build@incubator.apache.org for 
> cruisecontrol to send build results to?  (sorry, I really 
> dislike continuum)
> [10:49:29] <jvanzyl> we have notifications@ typically
> [10:49:46] <jvanzyl> you guys use what you like, i'm not 
> easily offended :-)
> [10:49:53] <dkulp> OK.   That would work.  :-)
> [10:49:58] <jvanzyl> actually, i'm generally never offended
> [10:50:08] <jvanzyl> use what works for you
> [10:50:43] <jvanzyl> probably won't be any good until kenney 
> has a run at it
> [10:50:53] <jvanzyl> actually we have two new full-time 
> people working on it 
> for the 1.1. release
> [10:51:06] <jvanzyl> 1.1 will be decent but anything before 
> that is a bit 
> tedious
> [10:51:23] <jvanzyl> kenney and jesse will be working on the 
> 1.1 release
> [10:51:50] <dkulp> ?   Wrong tab/window?
> [10:51:54] <jvanzyl> any opinion on the issues@
> [10:51:58] <jvanzyl> no, i'm telling you about continuum
> [10:52:04] <dkulp> Oh.
> [10:52:23] <jvanzyl> i can get the notifications@ and issues@ 
> created today
> [10:52:33] <dkulp> That's a good start.
> [10:52:39] <jvanzyl> and then we can setup the jira project
> [10:52:47] <jvanzyl> what issue tracker do you use at objectweb?
> [10:53:15] <dkulp> Something built into their forge software, 
> it's "not very 
> good".
> [10:54:00] <jvanzyl> do you want all the issues in there?
> [10:54:07] <jvanzyl> and if so what kind of export can you get?
> [10:54:07] <dkulp> There isn't very many open issues (and 
> those that are open 
> need checking to make sure that it's still an issue)
> [10:54:16] <dkulp> Thus, we'll probably migrate them by hand.
> [10:54:20] <jvanzyl> as i can swizzle anything into/out of JIRA
> [10:54:32] <jvanzyl> if you can get me an export i can 
> probably do it faster
> [10:54:56] <jvanzyl> i have a JIRA ruby gem for bashing JIRA around
> [10:55:40] <dkulp> Let me see if I can get Adi....   he would 
> know more about 
> that part.
> [10:55:57] <dkulp> I can do all the SVN stuff, but the 
> tracking stuff isn't my 
> forte.
> [10:56:19] <jvanzyl> sure, np
> [10:56:38] <jvanzyl> what's dan using for CI?
> [10:57:07] <dkulp> I don't think he is.
> [10:57:22] <dkulp> We have an "internal" jira with some cxf 
> stuff in it....
> [10:57:30] <dkulp> How hard would it be for me to dump that as well?
> [10:59:07] <jvanzyl> i can give you the gem and a script to 
> pull stuff out
> [10:59:17] <jvanzyl> i use the ruby stuff so that i can pull 
> issues and and 
> import them
> [10:59:23] <jvanzyl> jira's dumps are crap
> [10:59:39] <jvanzyl> unless you are exporting the whole jira 
> instance and 
> importing
> [10:59:52] <jvanzyl> basically it's impossible using jira to 
> export a project 
> and import it
> [11:00:08] <dkulp> Lovely.
> [11:00:18] <jvanzyl> it's exports are cryptic nonsense for 
> the most part
> [11:00:32] <jvanzyl> not designed well for things like 
> codehaus and apache
> [11:00:35] <dkulp> And ruby isn't installed on the Jira server... :-(
> [11:00:41] <jvanzyl> i think we stretch the limits of jira at codehaus
> [11:00:48] <jvanzyl> doesn't need to be
> [11:00:56] <jvanzyl> it uses the soap interface
> [11:01:02] <dkulp> Ah.   Cool.
> [11:01:21] <jvanzyl> i've got some instructions so i'll clean those up
> [11:01:24] <jvanzyl> and you can try it
> [11:01:40] <jvanzyl> if you've got ruby and gem installed 
> it's pretty easy
> [11:01:48] <jvanzyl> and gem is pretty easy to install
> [11:01:51] <jvanzyl> basically like cpan
> [11:02:29] <dkulp> "emerge -pv gem"  doesn't work.   :-(
> [11:03:02] <dkulp> I'll figure that one out.
> [11:03:35] <dkulp> Does "rubygems" sound about right?
> [11:04:17] <jvanzyl> yah, it's rubygems
> [11:04:29] <jvanzyl> but i know little of gentoo
> [11:04:34] <jvanzyl> other then i can tell you're using it
> [11:04:57] <dkulp> OK.   emerging rubygems now.  :-)
> [11:05:34] <jvanzyl> let me see if there are gems for the other stuff
> [11:05:42] <jvanzyl> i usually pull all the sources down for 
> what i need
> [11:05:53] <jvanzyl> but i'll find gems for soap4r and the 
> command line parser 
> i use
> [11:05:56] <jvanzyl> i'll sort it out
> [11:07:38] <dkulp> Just email me the scripts and I'll give 
> them a whirl.
> [11:12:51] <jvanzyl> right o
> [11:38:08]  dan 
> (~dan@pool-71-115-179-176.gdrpmi.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined 
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> [11:58:58]  Signoff: tomeks ("CGI:IRC")
> [12:15:09] <dkulp> jvanzyl:  you didn't answer the question about the 
> incubating maven repositories....
> [12:23:38] <jvanzyl> i think we'll be able to have incubator repos
> [12:23:48] <jvanzyl> i think that's reasonable and most 
> people agree except 
> noel
> [12:28:45] <dkulp> My biggest issue is about snapshots, can 
> incubators go into 
> the normal apache snapshot repository?
> [12:28:53] <dkulp> (since it's not mirrored)
> [12:29:38] <dkulp> This kind of affects things today as the 
> Yoko team is 
> trying to get a SNAPSHOT deployed, they're just not sure where yet.
> [12:30:21] <jvanzyl> no
> [12:30:31] <jvanzyl> nothing in the incubator can go to the 
> standard repo
> [12:30:57] <jvanzyl> it will all have to go to the incubator 
> litter box
> [12:31:25] <jvanzyl> though i don't see a problem with 
> syncing that to central
> [12:31:25] <gnodet> jvanzyl, will these incubator specific 
> repos be synced to 
> ibiblio ?
> [12:31:34] <gnodet> thx
> [12:31:37] <gnodet> :)
> [12:31:39] <jvanzyl> i don't think folks want them to be though
> [12:31:54] <jvanzyl> i think we'll get an argument from noel 
> but anyone should 
> be allowed to put stuff in central
> [12:32:08] <gnodet> but there is really no need for an 
> incubator repo is it is 
> not synced
> [12:32:28] <gnodet> as we could also set up our own repo from 
> the web site
> [12:32:48] <jvanzyl> right, it needs to be synced to be useful
> [12:33:25] <dan> synchronization isn't apache policy
> [12:33:33] <dan> its maven policy
> [12:33:36] <dan> and anyone can sync, no?
> [12:33:42] <jvanzyl> any group should be able to sync shit
> [12:34:04] <dkulp> So, the question remains, where should 
> Yoko be deploying a 
> snapshot today?
> [12:34:31] <jvanzyl> there isn't a place yet really
> [12:34:42] <jvanzyl> i'll ask henri to create the incubator repos
> [12:36:21] <dkulp> We'll need both snapshot and release repos.
> [12:36:42] <jvanzyl> yup
> [12:36:51] <jvanzyl> there should be one of each for the 
> entire incubator
> [12:38:09] <jvanzyl> i pinged henri and asked when he's going 
> to set them up
> [12:38:15] <jvanzyl> he will probably post to the incubator list
> [12:39:17]  Signoff: jvanzyl (jvanzyl)
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> [16:20:21] <jvanzyl> howdy
> [16:21:22] <jvanzyl> what's up?
> [16:21:27] <dan> hiya
> [16:21:34] <dan> just hacking some cxf code
> [16:21:46] <dan> we're having a concall in the morning about 
> moving the code 
> to apache
> [16:22:04] <dan> you're welcome to dial in if you want - 11am
> [16:23:10] <jvanzyl> sure, send me the details and i'll join in
> [16:24:26] <dan> ok
> [16:25:51] <dkulp> I had another question about the name..... 
>  ( I hate to 
> bring this up...)
> [16:26:12] <dan> jvanzyl: sent
> [16:26:22] <dkulp> SHortly after moving the code, we're going 
> to want to 
> change all the org.objectweb/org.xfire package names to org.apache
> [16:27:03] <dkulp> I know there was some "dislike" of the 
> project name when 
> the proposal was made, do we want to resolve that before the 
> package re-name?
> [16:27:24] <dan> dkulp: please email the list about it :-)
> [16:27:38] <dan> I know there are a lot of people who have 
> thoughts on the 
> name issue...
> [16:27:56] <dkulp> I know, that's why I hate to bring it up.  
>  I hate being 
> the bad guy.   :-)
> [16:28:11] <dan> well I'm note really in a position where I 
> can be the bad guy
> [16:28:16] <dan> so someone needs to be the bad guy
> [16:28:36] <dan> there is always hani :-P
> [16:30:21] <dkulp> Hmm... not sure if all the IONA folks are 
> on the dev list 
> yet.
> [16:31:03] <dkulp> OK.  Adi says they are.  I'll trust him.
> [16:32:25] <dan> they should be
> [16:34:42] <jvanzyl> i put them on all the list
> [16:34:46] <jvanzyl> anyone who was on the propsoal
> [16:34:55] <jvanzyl> ok, now i'm really away
> [16:48:26] <dan> jvanzyl: just talked to adi, we're just 
> going to talk about 
> the move on the apache mailing list
> [16:48:42] <dan> you know, the Apache Way
> [16:50:34] <dan> jvanzyl: also, adi said he just faxed in the CLAs
> [16:50:37] <dan> this afternoon
> [16:58:57] <dkulp> OK,  I tried to not be "too much of a bad 
> guy" and just 
> sent a note asking if we had to change it or not.   That 
> shoulld foster some 
> discussion I hope.
> 

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